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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:19 PM
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Are the Clinton's the REAL Power behind Obama...If so..is it Good or Bad Thing?
When Obama turned over his "Presidential Podium" for former President Bill Clinton to hold his OWN Press Conference it seemed kind of shocking. Sort of like Chimpy Bush asking Poppy to come out and defend his Iraq Invasion and to tell us what a "Good Thing" for America it would be to Bomb Iraq and Make Democracy and Freedom Reign in that Country that was such a "threat to us after 9/11."

I had weird vibes that Clinton was called in to give his own Press Conference to defend another President. I don't believe there is a precedent for something like this in the last two centuries. (I may be wrong...I haven't lived that long but...don't remember it from my history studies).

My thoughts are that Obama felt his position was so weak (with blow back from Pelosi and many Dem Senators) that he felt he needed to call in "A Big Gun" and Clinton was the only one he could think of...OR..(what's worse in my dark thoughts) is that "THE CLINTONS" are using Obama's Presidency as CLINTON's THIRD TERM!

Think about it: Clinton's People are all in Obama's Adminstration. Clinton talked about "Globilization and Financial Meltdown" in his Press Conference ...but he never mentioned BANK DeRegulation that he sponsored as causing the MELTDOWN of our COUNTRY! He just said the "financial meltdown" caused us to have to make sure the American People are secure going forward."

Clinton took questions from the Press Corps...(after Obama cut out saying he was "late to dinner with the First Lady." The look he gave Clinton was one of "carry on ...you are doing a good job...I leave it up to you."

CAN ANYONE...give me and example of any President going Off to DINNER and leaving a Press Conference Off to a FORMER PRESIDENT? WHERE?

As I said: What if BUSH II had asked POPPY BUSH to give a SPEECH and PRESS CONFERENCE to MEDIA...because he was "late to dinner" with Laura Bush?

Wouldn't eyes have rolled and many people been very upset?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:22 PM
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1. IMO
there are too many conspiracy theories.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:22 PM
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2. No, that's just a meme to try and silence the "Hillary Would've Been Better" crowd.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:23 PM
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3. It appears players are being called off the bench to weigh in on current events.
Bush Sr. gave the START Treaty a high-five and now Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe will support it. Maybe it's a trend.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:23 PM
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4. Good grief! Will this open on Broadway???...n/t
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:28 PM
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5. It is a musical. Bill and Barack in "Don't Ask? Do Tell!"
Will close out of town.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:29 PM
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6. Philly, I'm sure...Bwahahaha....n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:46 PM
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8. Interesting point.......Send it to Broadway...but it's not funny to many Americans in Dire Straights
these days. A President who turns over the Podium to a "Former President" that signed legislation that caused the Financial Meltdown...because he was "caught with Pants Down" and had to "Compromise?"

Seems to me Clinton was defending his OWN Presidency in that Press Conference. Why he De-Regulated the Banksters, Telecom and allowed our jobs to go overseas with NAFTA!

I felt Clinton was defending the "Compromises Obama has Made and will have to make on SS and Medicare/Medicaid" and trying to tell the Press of America and the People. "We have to compromise to make government work"....and yet Government only seems to work for the Top 2% in America these days.

How can Democratic Party Justify this? I don't see how this works.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:42 PM
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7. I am quite certain that the three of them killed Vince Foster
n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:28 PM
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17. Are you kidding? nt
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cjbgreen Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:51 PM
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9. Listening to Lawrence O'donnell state
that democrats will never choose a third party candidate and listening to him spew the corporate rhetoric tells me that Obama is a lost cause and listening to his blasting his base again and again suggests that O is farther right than Clinton. Devastating for this country!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:36 PM
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21. It's worrisome, for sure. Hard to know where he stands if he calls in Former President..
to help him out.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:55 PM
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10. Almost all of Obama's agency appointees are recycled Clintonites.
But, that's not surprising since he's cut from the same ideological clothe, and backed by the same wealthy figures.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:16 PM
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12. I know...but did any of us think we were Re-Electing Clinton? I didn't think so...and why would
Obama think that bringing Clinton out and handing him the Podium and the US Press Corps (such as it is) would be GOOD for his Presidency and getting this Bill Passed. Is Obama so out of touch he'd give his power over to the Husband of his Rival in the Primaries?

Is this really his way of operating? Is it a good thing? He wants to be "Non-Partisan" and that was the theme of Clinton's Speech and Presser.

Clinton cautioned "tough times ahead where we are going to have to do serious cuts to contain the deficit." I had visions of Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles (who was Big PooBah in Clinton's last term) getting Clinton's ear to soften it for Democrats.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:10 PM
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22. I think he's right about one thing:
tough times are certainly ahead for America. It's now confirmed: we are a falling empire and failed economy with a political system to match. Obama was our last, best chance, and he threw it away, himself. He didn't have to end it so quickly, but he did.

It's not going to get any better after January.
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blazerunner Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:09 PM
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11. That was strange
Obama looked like he had better things to do.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:17 PM
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13. It's a little scary that Obama "had better things to do," also...ya think?
It was bizarre.
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blazerunner Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:24 PM
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15. "Disengaged" is a word that comes to mind.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:29 PM
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18. Yeah...can't keep "wifey waiting" gotta Cut out...You take it on...
..better things to do...See Ya!

Meanwhile Bernie Sanders is being a HERO to Dems out there on the Senate floor.

Bernie reminds me of Senator Byrd and Kennedy out there Filibustering AGAINST IRAQ INVASION! Not many DU'ers remember this any more...but they were HEROES to Us! In the end...we Invaded. But our love for Senator Byrd (inspite of his 19230's support of KuKluxClan when a teenager) stayed with us for years because of his magnificent History Lectures about Imperial Rome when he tried to stop that Invasion. Senator Kennedy was also Magnificent...but then it was expected of him.

They were heroes to those of us against that Invasion of Iraq.

Bernie Sanders and even Mary Landrieu (yeah...who would have thought) are giving us incredible PUSH BACK against this TERRIBLE BILL!
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:20 PM
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14. It was pathetic. Another demonstration of clueless leasdership.
x
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:25 PM
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16. I missed it but Eugene Robinson just said on KO's show that the prez...
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 08:25 PM by polichick
...is confident enough to leave the podium to the former prez - must've been an interesting moment.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:31 PM
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19. I had Keith on in background while posting and heard that.....I think Eugene
was trying to make the best of an incredibly strange moment. But Gene Robinson is a good guy...still he has to keep his job.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:33 PM
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20. Yeah, I really like Gene and always read his pieces, but can't agree with him...
...on this deal. You're right, he was trying to make the best of things.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:26 PM
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23. If the Clintons had that kind of power the POTUS would have been Hillary
IMO WJC was just there to run interference and shore up support for the POTUS.
I think it was a bad move on his part leaving the way he did though.
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