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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:01 AM Original message |
Before you hate this tax deal you may want to consider this side. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, both sides do get a win, and the Dems get the biggest win. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. you really believe that bullshit? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Hey! I'm not apologizing. Get that straight. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Its a shitty deal and it is ill conceived |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Lemme guess, Dems avoid a big tax hike? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. Or, as Sen. Sanders points out, Obama can pay for extended UIC benefits out of unspent TARP funds |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I would to read the bill that Bernie wrote. Where is it? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. No need to write a Bill for that. TARP/TARF spending is at the discretion of the President/Treas. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. How Can The Pres Allocate Funds Without Congressional Approval? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Disbursement is already approved up to the limit of the appropriation |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. This will NOT create any jobs, as the bush tax cuts haven;t supplied any jobs, and to boot it will |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Unemployment, tax cuts for low incomes, breaks for hiring all create jobs |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Unemployment has gotten worse, and we have had the tax cuts for several years. Reagan's trickle |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
32. No, they do not. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Supply side also drives down wages |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. These are not the best options for stimulating the economy |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. Krugman says its a bad deal |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. He also says we should do it right? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. +1 |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. The Consensus Among Economists Is It's A Flawed Plan But Better Than The Status Quo |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. He does? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Do you read his column? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Where do you see his endorsement in that column? |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Well there you go. You had to ask that didn't you, now you're just gonna get |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. "It would be a noticeable net positive for the economy next year." |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
5. It is a bad deal. Have Repukes throw in the Public Option then we can talk business. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. It is extortion, plain and simple |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Thank you. It's extortion. And the crazy rationalization surpasses the Bushbots by far. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. What's Your Plan |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Boehner said WEEKS ago he'd negotiate. WE DID NOT FUCKING TRY. |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Your right. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. A national jobs program deals with the unemployed directly |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Please Tell Me How We Are Going To Get A Jobs Bill Out Of A Republican House |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Exactly!!!! |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Was there one? |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. They could have gotten one this time |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Where Are The Votes For The National Jobs Program? |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Where is the money for the tax cuts? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. It's Moot. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Your putting the chicken before the egg? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. There Have Been Job Bills Offering Tax Breaks For New Hires |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
16. Don't insult me. This isn't a stimulus. It continues the same things that have been in place for |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
19. You miss the point. It's not just the bill. It's that he didn't consider ANYTHING ELSE. |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
24. +10000 |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
29. spin spin spin spin |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. "Obamanation" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. tax cuts are shitty stimulus. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I Thought I Won You Over With My Unassailable Logic And Reason |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Argghhh you are right. I Re-Capitulate. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
47. Most of the items we "got" are things the Republicans like. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
49. k/r |
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