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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:36 PM
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POLL: Most Americans support tax cut deal, including 68% of Democrats and Independents.
Poll: Most Americans support tax cut deal

Carrie Dann writes: The tax cut deal negotiated between the White House and congressional Republicans is undeniably unpopular with some Capitol Hill lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, but one new poll shows that most Americans support the compromise as a whole.

Almost 70 percent of Americans in a new Washington Post/ABC survey say that they back the agreement, which would temporarily extend tax cuts for all income levels, tax large inheritances at 35 percent, extend benefits for the unemployed, and impose a payroll tax holiday.

The poll found similar levels of support for the package (68 percent) among Democrats and independents, a key target for Democrats hoping to woo those voters in the 2012 election.

Even when respondents were told that the deal would add almost $1 trillion to the federal deficit and that the nation’s very top earners would receive the tax cuts, over 60 percent of respondents still gave the proposal a thumbs up.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/12/13/5642272-poll-most-americans-support-tax-cut-deal-
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:37 PM
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1. A poll by a Democratc partisan with questionable conclusions.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 01:38 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
This has been pretty much gutted in other threads here.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:41 PM
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3. I Didn't Know Democratic Partisans Were Unwelcome Here
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 01:41 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
And the findings of the poll are reenforced by other polls on the topic.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:43 PM
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5. Amazing...
Some posters are so desperate in their flailing attempts to bash things, they will even bash the very purpose of this board if it suits their narrow pet agendas.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:44 PM
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7. When it comes to polling --
the only polls that should count are 100% independent of any partisan influence. We don't need a Democratic Frank Lutz attempting to form opinion.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:53 PM
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16. We Could Use A Democratic Frank Luntz But I'm Not A Big Framing Fan
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 01:53 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Frank Luntz is the Lakoff of the right...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:48 PM
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10. I think DUers were able to deconstruct the poll.
What are you worried about? The sleepy mainstream won't be looking so closely.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:41 PM
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4. HaHa...
Right. It's a Washington Post/ABC survey. Sorry, and no offense to anonymous serial cyber-malcontents, but I think we can stipulate the credibility of WaPo and ABC News...
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:47 PM
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9. "...we can stipulate the credibility of WaPo and ABC News."
:rofl:

You go ahead and do that. 8 years of George Bush proved that neither are credible news organizations anymore.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:50 PM
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12. The Polls Suggested We Would Get Waxed In November And Waxed We Were
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:51 PM
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14. Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
Tell us why we shouldn't trust this result. Try to be specific about the methodology, sampling technique, etc, rather than serving up half-baked innuendo.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:51 PM
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15. Sorry. Ad hominem attacks are just easier to understand.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 01:53 PM by Cant trust em
Otherwise you'd have to know something about the sampling models.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:38 PM
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2. K & R
:thumbsup:
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:43 PM
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6. They shouldn't poll people that don't have a clue about what's happening in this country.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:46 PM
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8. Does that include fellow DUers...
perhaps?

I think not.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:51 PM
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25. Course, not, silly!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:50 PM
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13. Sadly, knowledge and intelligence have never been criteria for voting. nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:00 PM
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17. Thank God Because I Would Think Dummies Are Randomly Distrubuted Among The Political Spectrum.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:51 PM
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33. If they can VOTE ... you need to poll them.
The middle class will not tolerate losing THEIR tax cut to prevent the rich from getting one.

PERIOD.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 06:19 PM
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37. And anyone
with whom you disagree doesn't "have a clue about what's happening in this country", I take it.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:49 PM
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11. Fine, I still disagree, and withdraw my support.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:00 PM
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18. I challenge you to a poll off!
:roft:

Poll: 49 percent support tax cut deal

Source: USA Today Gallup Poll

WASHINGTON — Americans are inclined to support the tax-cut deal negotiated by President Obama and congressional Republicans, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, but the compromise hasn't boosted optimism about the prospects for bipartisan action to address the nation's problems.

Even as leaders in both parties predict the package will pass Congress, the public apparently views the process that reached it with some skepticism.

Forty-nine percent of those surveyed support passage of the deal — a plurality but not quite a majority — while a third oppose it and nearly one in five say they're not sure.

By an overwhelming 51%-20%, they say the handling of the tax issue has made them more pessimistic rather than more optimistic about the ability of the government to address the biggest problems facing the country.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-12-13-poll-tax-cut-deal_N.htm?csp=34news


Wow, numbers look a little different when it's not a Democratic partisan doing the polling. :shrug:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:04 PM
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19. 49% For Passage 33% Against Passage The Rest Are Too Ignorant To Form An Opinion
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 02:05 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
If you allocate the dummies it's 60-40.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:06 PM
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20. Not that different. Numbers for USA TODAY still show far more support the deal - 49/33/20.
Sorry. Try again.

Not sure the label fits here but what do you have against Democratic partisans anyway?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:29 PM
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21. Here are the results from the ABC/WaPo Poll.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_12132010.html

I'm trying to find the questions for the Gallup poll. Have you seen them, by any chance? If you do, can you send them to me?

Thanks.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:29 PM
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22. Another one... PEW POLL: Tax Cuts Win Broad Bipartisan Support, Liberal Democrats Are on Board
The agreement between President Obama and congressional Republicans to extend tax cuts and unemployment benefits is getting strong bipartisan support. Overall, 60% approve of the agreement while just 22% disapprove.

There are virtually no partisan differences in opinions about the agreement – 63% of Democrats approve of it, as do 62% of Republicans and 60% of independents. Among Democrats, liberals are as supportive of the agreement as are conservative and moderate Democrats.

The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted Dec. 9-12 among 1,011 adults, finds that on balance more say the agreement will help rather than hurt the U.S. economy and people like themselves.

Nearly half (48%) say the agreement will help the economy, while just 29% think it will hurt the economy. Opinions are similar about the personal impact of the deal: Nearly twice as many say the agreement will help (47%) rather than hurt (25%) people like themselves.



http://people-press.org/report/684/
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:37 PM
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23. Enough said, no? I am VERY sick and tired of the debate...
Need a break from everything politics...Looks to me like the ONLY group who opposes this compromise are the House Democrats who just got their asses handed out to them in the last election.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:57 PM
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26. I think that taking a break is a wise choice.
DU just needs to take a collective deep breath.
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:48 PM
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32. Amazing Senate vote too....I am stunned!
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:37 PM
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24. Just proves what I've known since 2000...most 'Mericans are fucking stupid
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 03:19 PM
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27. easy most
when the deal was first proposed most americans were against it, now the main stream media is brainwashing everyone into thinking it is an ok deal, this is the same brainwashing as when we were told that the dean scream was unpresidential and why most americans thought saddam hussein had something to do with 911, most americans are either ignorant, stupid, or both and are easily brainwashed by our ultra right wing main stream media. in other words most americans are easily bullshitted by "experts" as per the milgrim study
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 03:32 PM
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28. yes i agree
the paper this morning had some article about how many good things would happen to the middle class if it passed.
It's like hypnotizing chickens.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 03:56 PM
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29. And as you can see, when they awake they have no memory of what they voted for...
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:05 PM
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30. Right. Because polls about what people support show what is best for the country
:eyes:

In March 1992, 55% of Americans said they would support sending American troops back to the Persian Gulf to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

27% of Americans don't think we landed on the Moon.

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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:55 PM
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34. Polls often tell you what you do not want to hear ... get used to it.
Your examples are true, and sadly, meaningless.

The MIDDLE CLASS is not willing to let their own small tax cut expire as a way to ensure that the rich don't get one.

Their current bottom line is what they care about.

That's what this poll tells you.

And past that, if you want to change things from how they are currently, you need to understand how they are currently.

Many on DU want to act is if the truth about NOW, is not what it is ... and so they DEMAND things NOW, that simply can't happen.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 06:02 PM
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35. Exactly, they are true and meaningless.
Yet, they are celebrated here as having some sort of redeeming value. Or that it proves that legislation XYZ was the right thing to do.

All it shows is what people believe. Even if it is irrational or wrong.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:18 PM
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31. In 2003, 70% of Americans thought Saddam was linked to 9-11
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm

Polls don't mean much when the people being polled can be easily taken for a ride and believe something that's contrary to the evidence available.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 06:04 PM
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36. I do agree with the "easily taken for a ride and believe something that's contrary to the evidence"
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 06:06 PM by jefferson_dem
part.

Only, this is a question about support of opposition to a public policy initiative while the Saddam deal is a question meant to assess the level of political knowledge in the public, which is predictably dreadfully small.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 07:15 PM
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38. 70 percent is right in line with the Gallup poll
Which had approval at 66. The only ones who don't support it are the fringe righies and lefties.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:24 PM
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39. most Americans supported the wars, too
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:28 PM
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40. Just proves that 68% of Americans are Morans. I don't like taking my vitamins, but
my doctor told me take them or else suffer long term ramifications.

I don't like the idea of my taxes going up either, but I am willing to pay more on my paltry salary if it means long term fiscal stability.
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