Obama's job approval now at 79% among liberal Democrats

[UrbScotty]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

So much for Obama crashing in the polls and losing all his support among the Left!

"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan

[RussBLib]

1. I don't believe that poll

Come to think of it, I don't believe any polls.

[hlthe2b]

8. I find it hard to believe as well, though I wish I could believe it...

Polls designed to spin an issue-- bad when the RETHUGS do it; no less so when we do it.

[BrklynLiberal]

18. Ditto.

[abelenkpe]

29. I don't believe any polls either nt

[Imajika]

40. Yet they tend to be very accurate...

...when it comes to predicting the outcome of elections. Not perfect, but pretty damn accurate.

Remember how so many people here rejected the polls leading into November and predicted Democrats would do just fine. How'd that work out? Instead the results pretty much tracked the polls.

Sorry, but the polls are accurate. Dismissing them is akin playing ostrich and sticking your head in the sand.

[elizm]

2. Guess it is just the noisy fringe that gets heard.

Kinda sorta like the Tea Party.

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[closeupready]

4. As we know, polls don't matter - unless they say what we want them to.

Otherwise, Republican shill/it's FOREVER until the next election/sampling is flawed/who paid for the poll?.

[Cant trust em]

6. We sure can see that today, can't we? nt

[Cant trust em]

5. A few points lower than it was earlier this year though.

Doesn't say how it was last summer.

[we can do it]

7. I Find That Hard To Believe

faux news poll?

[EndElectoral]

9. I spoke to 20 random liberal Democrats today. His job approval rating was 0%

[FrenchieCat]

11. I'm sure in the land where they are from, President Sanders & VP Kucinich are at 100%!

:rofl:

[Scurrilous]

25. ROFL

:thumbsup:

[Ikonoklast]

14. You need to get out more. Your cats don't count as 'liberals'.

(cough)Icallbullshit(cough)

[frazzled]

17. How random (or liberal for that matter) could they be?

Do you mean you asked twenty of your friends? That's not random.

Or did you stop twenty people you don't know randomly on the street, asking them if they are liberals (how would you know if they are being truthful?) and then asking them whether they approve of Obama?

Most of us don't get to speak to twenty people in a day. I mean, not substantively regarding politics.

[EndElectoral]

22. I'm a waiter. I easily meet 20 people in a day.

I simply asked them if they voted for Obama and were happy with his performance thus far. None of them said they were.

[frazzled]

27. Oh, that's very scientific

If I'd been asked that by a waiter during the Bush presidency, I definitely would have said, "Oh yeah, man, I voted for him, but I can't stand him now!"

On the other hand, if a waiter had the audacity to ask me who I voted for and tried to ask a political question, I'd probably inform the management. I don't think you're supposed to do that to the clientele.

[Cant trust em]

19. A small sample size is more likely to lead to a wide standard error. nt

[treestar]

21. Guess that is why polls are done scientifically!

who knew?

[fascisthunter]

10. with a Ronald Reagan quote...

lol

[FrenchieCat]

12. Knowing Reagan, he probably meant it......

And it is true, that to him, Facts were a stupid thing,
as they are to many here at DU these days.

[BlueCaliDem]

13. I'm one of the 9 percenters, but I have very, very low regard for Congressional Democrats

because they could've done so much more to pass legislation like extending tax cuts for the poor and middle class (something the President was pushing for since March this year!), voting to pass BK reform so judges can modify bloated mortgages (cramdown) like the rich can do on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc homes and yachts. They could've passed a Public Option with the majorities they had and they could've gotten through by wheelin' and dealin' with "their friends on the other side of the aisle" ... and on so many other issues. But they didn't.

Instead, they hid behind the "B-B-But the Republicans filibusterd!" BS, hiding behind the GOTP so they wouldn't piss off their corporate masters and still get those tens of thousands in corporate cash, while fooling us into voting them back for another six or four years.

As FrenchieCat has listed, the President has been pushing to extend tax cuts for the 98% of Americans while wanting tax cuts for the top 2% expire, but the Democrats, being part of the top 2%, seemed unhinged and incapable of getting it done.

It then makes one think ... why?

[DrDan]

15. if one look hard enough, there will be a poll satisfying one's needs and desires

[Larkspur]

16. They must not be the ones with salary 40K and under whose tax rates are goint UP

thanks to this tax deal.

And I bet the Rethugicans will exploit that in 2012.

[FrenchieCat]

20. You think?

Since the choice were Tax cut expiring for everyone

OR

the Tax compromise

it makes your statement inaccurate.

Here are the FACTS: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=561422&mesg_id=561422


Don't be afraid to look,
they will only hurt you if you want to deny the verifyable.

[frazzled]

23. Where did you get that tax rates go up?

Rates aren't going up for those under $20K (single) $40K (couple). Did you get it from this from the Tax Policy Center?

"Single working people with earnings below $20,000 and married couples with earnings below $40,000 are worse off under the payroll tax cut proposals in the compromise between the president and the Republicans," explains Bob Williams, a senior fellow at the Washington, D.C.-based Tax Policy Center.

Here's why: The Obama proposal substitutes a Social Security payroll tax cut for the Making Work Pay credit, which was targeted to do the most good for low-income families. Under current rules, the working poor receive $400 when they earn at least $6,452 a year through the Making Work Pay credit. Married couples with earnings above $12,900 get $800 under the program.

The compromise cuts the Social Security payroll tax from 6.2% to 4.2%, so a couple wold have to earn $40,000 to get the same $800 tax benefit. Every working-class couple earning less than that will get less than $800, meaning they lose money under the Obama proposal.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/taxes/working-poor-pay-more-obama-gop-tax-compromise/19752400/

That's not a rate going up: that's the Making Work Pay credit going away--which, I'm sorry, Obama did not "replace": it was scheduled to expire this year, in 2010 (it was a part of the Stimulus act), and there was no way Republicans were going to renew it. So Obama got working people SOMETHING in return for the $400 or $800 credit they were going to lose. He also got an expansion of the earned income credit, which Republicans hate and want to do away with, so I don't know how that factors into it.

[pnwmom]

37. Without a new tax deal, people at the bottom end will have large tax increases.

At the bottom end, tax rates are scheduled to go up 50% (from 10% to 15%).

I don't know what tax rate increases you're talking about. Care to clarify?

[Scurrilous]

24. K & R

:thumbsup:

[femrap]

26. I haven't believed in Polls

for decades.

[saracat]

28. "Figures lie and liars figure". Interesting that Reagan is quoted to give ballast to the OP but

somehow, with the Prez's oft stated admiration for him, it is appropriate, especially when supporting a really "stupid" fact that has little basis in reality.

[eridani]

30. I will personally never diss a Democrat in a public poll, even if I despise their positions n/t

[crim son]

31. Remember how the shrub kept f***ing up over and over again,

yet his poll numbers remained high? Whether this poll is accurate or not, it says nothing about whether Obama is doing his job or not; all it says is that people are idiots. Surprise!

[jefferson_dem]

32. Ha. Truth ...

It's rather funny watching the reality deniers twist and turn...

[Exilednight]

33. Where do you get 79% ? The poll you linked to shows him at 69%.

Liberal Nov 9-14 72% Nov 15-21 73% Nov 22-28 71% Nov 29 - Dec 5 70% Dec 6-12 69%

[CJCRANE]

35. Liberal *Democrat* is at 79% approve.

Just "Liberal" is at 69% approve.

[Exilednight]

36. So now we are seperating liberals and liberal Democrats? Obama calls himself a progressive ........

and a Democrat. I don't doubt that he's a Democrat, but I highly doubt he's progressive.

[CJCRANE]

38. They're the figures and categories in the poll. Nothing to do with DU

or our opinions.

[sam kane]

34. Ha. My mom, a traditional democrat who is always with the majority,

just took her poster of Obama off the wall.

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[Fearless]

41. Notice the downward trend by any chance?

:+

[Ter]

42. Only 79% of his base is terribly low

Anything under 90% is worrisome for re-election.

[tomm2thumbs]

43. the ones they should be calling have had their phones lines cut off

if this were even remotely believable, I'd even try to half-believe it

[IScreamSundays]

44. I got your poll right here!

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[SkyDaddy7]

46. I kinda figured that was the case. Thanks for posting!

[cornermouse]

47. I have some beachfront property I'd like to sell you.

You'd like it. Its in the Mojave desert.