President Obama Just Won Reelection

[DemocratSinceBirth]

There's an ancient Chines proverb that says there are two ways to do in your opponent. You can dig a hole and wait for him to fall in or you can perch him on top of the mountain and wait for him to fall off. Our great leader did the latter. By catering to the Republican's greed he let them sow the seeds of their own destruction.

We ate the Republican's lunch and they don't even know it.

The Grand Compromise will juice the economy, raise people's spirits, bring down unemployment to more manageable levels, and ensure his reelection in 2012.


Muah, Mr. President

[Colobo]

1. I think so as well. Apart of that, the country wants to see a leader

willing to work with the other side on key issues and succeed in the process. Obama has done just that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. The Indys Always Like Compromise

But putting hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in circulation will help the economy.

[elleng]

57. We ALL should like compromise, as that's what allows government to function,

and a living economy demands $ circulating.

Thanks

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

91. The problem, however, with most Independents is that they tend to be low information

voters. I bet most of them don't know that Republicans have issued this ultimatum, nor do they know how Republicans blocked nearly every piece of legislation, held up the president's judicial and agency nominees, and threatened to hold up the most important START treaty ratification, and small business bills.

That's the problem. Because Independents are now such a potent force in the electorate, they typically dictate how this president deals with Republicans, and that has typically meant tilting to the right of center.

[Dr.Phool]

104. Generalize much?

I tend to find Independents as people disgusted with both parties.

I was a Democrat for nearly 40 years, until they stopped looking out for their traditional base constituencies, and started sucking up to the corporations and banks, a'la DLC.

I find most low information voters to be people who accept things on blind faith, with no critical thinking, no sense of history, no empathy, and a blind lemming-like allegiance to a party. ANY party.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

110. I didn't write ALL, I said most. And, and as Independent myself, I am finding this to be true.

Most self-identified independents are really swing voters who lean either right or left, but the research bears one thing out: they are typically the most ill-informed. And they also tend to make up their minds at the very last minute. That's why there's such volatility when it comes to predicting how they will vote. Armed with the correct information, the choices should be clear. But independents (small "i") rarely gather information or base their decisions on information that is faulty or incomplete. By and large, I think people who call themselves "Independent" really are leaning Democrats or leaning Republicans. And some of them are more partisan that they care to admit. I'm seeing more and more self-identified independents calling themselves that because the Republican label has become a prejorative. On the other side, liberals like myself are distancing themselves from the Democratic Party because the party, in my view, has moved too far to the right. Therefore, I register as an "independent," but will vote for liberal Democrats, for instance. I'm not a swing voter in the sense that I may never vote for a Republican candidate. However, I vote ideology, which means that I'll vote for a Green Party candidate or a member of the Independent Party if he/she were liberal enough.

Of course I don't mean ALL independents are misinformed, but I do believe that most independents are this way. Those that are members of the Independent Party (BIG "I")--an established party--may be like you and me. We simply are disgusted with BOTH parties. But the vast majority of independents (small "i") typically do not associate themselves with one party or the other. Indeed, they don't register with ANY party. They are unaffiliated and often very detached from politics. They are "swing" voters.

Research on "pure" or swing independents:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/07/research_desk_responds_how_par.html
http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/fedderse/homepage/papers/curse.pdf

[WonderGrunion]

112. "Low Information Voter" is another way of saying "Fucking Retards"

It's disgusting when Rahm does it and it's disgusting when we do it.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

118. This isn't about liberals demeaning voters. The low information voter is NOT a myth.

The research is there and bears this out.

I'm not attacking these voters. What I am saying is that there is a voter who is detached from politics. Whether you like it or not, they simply aren't as engaged as other types of voters--liberal and otherwise. And there is a voting behavior that follows based on the amount and kind of information that these voters seek out and rely on when finally making their vote.

[Dr.Phool]

102. Yes, doing the exact same thing we've done for the last 10 years,

Will really be an improvement.

Funny. I'm an Indy, and I think this thing totally sucks. I think most Indy's would prefer someone actually making a stand on something.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

2. Please, no one say anything about wanting what he's smoking

I smoke the best that Northern California has to offer, and I've never been this high.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Why So Serious?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQHfoz9Be7U

[denem]

12. Do you know how I got these cuts?

:evilgrin:

[denem]

4. It's lucky the GOP establishment still care about the wealthy.

Tea Party forums are in uproar.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. The Pres Knew They Would Sell Their Soul For Filthy Lucre

Also, the 012 Repug presidential candidates were praying the Compromise would fail. It would make Obama look ineffective and create unceratinty about the economy.

[denem]

37. Heh. Bill Clinton's disclaimer: 'I benefit from this'

as indeed does the President.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. That's Another Benefit

You think he has a base problem. Reducing the deficit is the Tea Bagger's raison d'etre. The Repugs are spending money like a drunk conventioneer at a topless club.

[zbdent]

48. you quit talking about Michael Steele that way ...

:evilgrin:

[Scurrilous]

5. K & R

:thumbsup:

[mmonk]

6. We'll see. I'm not sure the business cycle will do it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Most Economists Think It Will Add One Half To One Percent To GDP Growth

But I just think folks need some good news...

[eridani]

53. Yes. Right on track for 15 FUCKING YEARS of no net job gains at all

Thanks for nothing.

[sweetapogee]

100. how

how does President Obama make the case that the shrub tax cuts ruined the economy but his continuation of those cuts improved the economy?

However, President Obama will be re-elected only if the economy gets it's sorry butt out of the shit can. Removal of said body part from the lower regions of the septic system will have to begin very soon as time is running out.

[Cosmocat]

99. Cause ... These VERY SAME "tax cuts" did SO much

for the economy ...

It is a disaster of epic proportions ...

As for the next election end of it, all he did was ENSURE the continuation of the current level of deficits and provide REAL reason to have them blamed on him ...

[rurallib]

7. I will believe it when i see it.

and I am not expecting to see it.

[FrenchieCat]

8. So why are you here?

If you don't expect Obama to be reelected 2 years from now?

[monmouth]

21. There are a lot of us here who don't expect him to be re-elected...n/t

[FrenchieCat]

33. I know a lot of folks here who will work toward that end.

Are you one of them?

Just want to know who I'm really talking to.

Obama didn't WANT to extend the tax cuts for the rich,
but he did want to maintain the tax cut for the middle class,
especially at this time in this economy. He ran on promising
not to increase the tax rate for the middle class, and that is
evidence that this is why he acted with this compromise.

A compromise is called a compromise for a reason...
it means you don't get all that you want.
It means you've got to choose what your priorities are,
and go with that. He wanted to insure that the middle class
didn't experience a tax increase in the worse economic times since the depression,
and that is exactly what he did.

If you think that this is reason that he will lose....
than I think you are wrong.

If he loses because those who are most impatient have decided no longer to support him,
even if that might mean a Republican victory....than those folks might as well cut out the
middle man, and just join the Republican sites that they have so much in common with.
Come election 2012, if your hope for change is to get rid of Obama, than the GOP wants you.

[Name removed]

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[monmouth]

78. No, I am not one of them, but I am entitled to my POV and don't

feel I need to be challenged on it...

[rurallib]

25. um - I don't know. maybe to voice opinion on what I believe to be

democratic values.

[FrenchieCat]

40. Small "d".......

Interesting.

[cyberswede]

111. Not really...

...unless you're trying to read something that isn't there into what he meant. He used a small "m" to start his sentence, too. Maybe he has slow typing fingers. :)

By the way, I have never known ANYONE who works harder to get Democrats elected than rurallib. I can understand his disappointment with Obama as well as his doubts about O's ability to win reelection in 2012. There is a LOT of disappointment out there. rurallib has been more patient than a lot of folks. (the small "r" is intentional)

[polmaven]

56. Throwing up to 15 million people

out to the streets because they have no incomes is a Democratic value? :shrug:

[Dr.Phool]

109. link?

[walldude]

11. Are you fucking kidding?

Yeah Obama just kicked some Republican ass and everyone is just too stupid to see it. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Our Great Leader Plays Chess While His Opponents Play Checkers

.

[Hawkowl]

98. Playing chess in a MMA cage match ..nt

[Skittles]

44. CHESS GAME!!! CHILL OUT!!!!!

GET WITH THE PROGRAM WALLDUDE :rofl:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. He 's Still Working On His Double Jump

.

[Skittles]

62. STOP IT DSB

YOU'RE KILLING ME :rofl:

[Kennah]

13. It's good news, bad news

Good news that he won re-election.

Bad news that he's running as a Republican in 2012.

[jaxx]

32. Don't be calling the President a republican.

Would you like to be called one?

[Kennah]

41. I did not mean it seriously

Besides, IMHO Sister Sarah has the GOP nomination locked up, and methinks that's the surest sign of Obama'a re-election.

[Name removed]

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. There's Nearly A Trillion Dollars In People's Hand

The lion's share is going to the poor and middle class who will spend every cent of it.

[MadHound]

28. Actually no, they won't,

Not on consumer goods and other such items that create demand. They will spend it to pay down debt, pay the rent, pay the utilities. There will be very little stimulative value.

This is well known economic fact, plain and simple. Tax cuts, no matter for who, are the least effective form of economic stimulus, bar none. If they were so damned effective then our economy would be roaring over the past thirty years, ever since Reagan started this tinkle down, supply side nonsense. Instead, what we have seen are real world wages shrink, the rise of the working poor, an increase in poverty, jobs disappear and our economy tank. Does that sound very stimulative to you?

[eridani]

34. The lion's share of it is in rich peoples' hands.

And he has started out on his plan to destroy Social Security.

[Life Long Dem]

86. Give it a break.

This isn't a fortune teller forum.

[dflprincess]

120. Singles making less than $20,000 will actually have a tax increase

The payroll tax "holiday" will save them less than the $400 Obama's "make work pay" tax credit did. And, the "holiday" will also threaten their future retirement benefits.

[louis-t]

16. repugs will blame him if it fails, take credit if it succeeds. (it won't)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. The Pres Always Gets The Credit Or Blame

This is a home run.

[Exilednight]

17. This "grand compromise" is going to do a lot of long term damage. The choice of compromise vs

no compromise is like asking someone if they want to be hit by a bat now and suffer a couple of broken knees for a month or so, or suffer from brain damage three years from now and have to live in a vegetative state for the rest of your life.

If Obama said no to the compromise there would be some short term damage to the economy, but we would be healthier in the end.

By accepting this compromise, he's decided to push off a couple of broken knees and wait for the brain damage to set in a few years down the road.

[tularetom]

18. Unless he didn't

If congress fiddle farts around with this thing until after the holiday recess, the republicans will take credit for whatever success the measure produces.

And castigate Obama unmercifully for anything that goes wrong.

They will probably do that even if it passes tomorrow.

I hope he has a contingency plan whereby he takes ALL the credit for the good parts of the tax compromise and blames his opponents for the bad parts.

Because you know that's exactly what they are planning.

[MrTriumph]

19. Get real. He is toast.

x

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. I Have Nailed Every Presidential Election Since 68 At Least Two Years Out

You can bookmark this post. I am to political prognostication what the man on my avatar was to boxing.

"The Greatest"

[Exilednight]

42. ROFLMAO. That's funny.

Picked every election since '68 two years out. That's hilarious. No one picked Carter two years out, in fact, most people had never heard of Jimmy Carter before December 12, 1974.

He didn't even consider running until 18 months out. The thought of running for president didn't even cross his mind until 18 months out. He was a major underdog when the primary started, his name recognition was only at 2%. Odds are, you didn't even hear of Carter until sometime around the first quarter of 1975.

I do give you this much credit, when you tell a lie, you go big.

[denem]

45. Presidential election as in (R) or (D)

obviously.

[Exilednight]

49. That's not what he said. n/t

[denem]

50. It is. "Nailing a presidential election" is a party call

unless you're God.

[Exilednight]

70. Nailing a presidential election is picking the winner. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Nailed=Picked Right Party

.

[Dr.Phool]

105. Even Pete Rose grounded out at some point.

And now Brett Favre is sitting on the bench.

[avaistheone1]

24. I think Obama just danced his swan song.

Bye, bye.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. This Was The Rope A Dope

The Republicans shot their bolt...

[Dr.Phool]

107. Here's your rope-a-dope!

Float like a butterfly, sting like a....


http://www.markfiore.com/political-cartoons/watch-barack-obama-tax-cut-compromise-republican-gop-victory-animated-video-mark-fiore-an

[eridani]

30. Right. Just like the original tax cuts led to an explosion in job creation

--oh, wait..........

[eridani]

31. He just completely fucked the economy (and the social safety net) completely

He sowed the seeds of our destruction.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. The Deficit Is A Symptom Of A Sick Economy And Not The Cause

.

[eridani]

51. That's ture. The sick exonomy is caused by the income inequality that has trashed--

--total demand. And Obama just made that problem a whole lot worse.

[FrenchieCat]

36. Hyperbole.......

and what did congress do? Cause they sure in the hell didn't pass a bill that he could sign
that would have done what you wanted. Why aren't you talking to DC, and getting Sanders to
get everyone in Congress to change their mind?

What happened to the strength of Sanders BEFORE the elections when there was a debate to take the tax cut issue off the table. Why didn't he filibustered than, when there was time?

[eridani]

46. Congress is every bit as much to blame

This bill is an utter disaster. All you have to do to realize that is to look at the total disaster of a decade that was caused by the original tax cuts. Obama is just one more gutless Democrat, and hardly the worst offender.

[mcar]

83. Absolutely

I respect and admire Bernie Sanders, but I don't recall him filibustering the original tax cuts, nor did he bring the middle class extension up for a vote before the election like Pres. Obama asked Congress to do.

Congress pushed this to the last minute and now they're crying about how Obama let them down? They blew a perfect opportunity to bring it to a vote BEFORE the elections and use the Rs nay votes as a cudgel. They chickened out. Now, with no time left, they decide to fight their own President? :eyes:

They should have been fighting the Rs months ago.

[whosinpower]

38. You didn't eat the republicans lunch -

You ate your children's and your grandchildrens lunch, breakfast and supper. You also bit into your parents retirement.

And while you gloat about that lunch, the republicans will use the bloated deficit to hammer away at democratic principles like a blacksmith making a sword....make it smaller, make it sharper....until there is but a snippet left and instead of a sword to protect the standard of living of most americans, you are left with a paring knife - to pare away at what is left.

Bush tax cuts when combined with two unnecessary wars was irresponsible....but that bill is still due. Obama tax cuts will not reinvigorate the economy. It will not create jobs. It will not restore confidence in a system that passes the buck to unborn generations. Wait and see what the dollar does in the international market when these tax cuts come online. If you think it was worrisome before - you ain't seen nothin' yet! And because you have to borrow the money now just to finance these....the growing call to replace the US greenback as a global reserve currency with something more stable will become deafening. The moment that happens - it is game over. You think Gold is high now....just wait Mikey. Moody's has already warned of this.

And don't forget - all this is encumbant on the Chinese saying "OK - sure we'll loan you that money." There are no guarentees they will do so. So then what? Print more?

[demwing]

39. Yes, because the Bush Tax Breaks created SO many jobs previously!

They're bound to create even morer than beforer

[denem]

47. Middle Tax increases and Benefit cuts

bound to create even lesser than ever.

[eridani]

55. They will be totally irrelevant. Increase in demand will be miniscule

--considering how heavily indebted so many people are.

[denem]

59. Bookmark it. We will see.

[eridani]

63. We've alread had two jobless recoveries last decade

I'm not seeing the benefits to little people from the third.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. I Am Content To Let History Judge

.

[eridani]

95. History has already judged the 00s as the worst decade for job creation

--ever, at least since records were kept. I am bewildered about why anyone would be happy about more of the same.

[whosinpower]

97. Dont let a pesky thing like facts get in the way

Doncha know all those multnational corporations hire tons of people.....overseas.....and they will do it here too....once they have their golden pony, your house, your land, your grandchildren's lifetime earnings....once they own it all.....then they will hire.....maybe......if the conditions are favourable.....

They just didn't in 2000 because they were too busy hiring overseas....and they still didn't do it in 2003 because...well why would they if there was a pesky thing like social security to pay.....but if you get rid of ALL THOSE PAYROLL THINGS - SOCIAL SECURITY, HEALTH BENEFITS, MINIMUM WAGE, LABOUR REGULATIIONS.....once all of that is gone, and workers will be happy with 25 cents an hour - MAN OH MAN, THEY ARE SO INTO THAT! Then America's workforce could actually compete with the vast cheap chinese or Indian labour force....and by that time, there might be something that China or India might want....maybe......

Oh by the way - that is with sarcasm.

[CakeGrrl]

64. What is going on with this selective comprehension of the components of the deal?

The President doesn't WANT the damned upper-income tax cuts.

But since the Republicans are assholes, there would be NO unemployment or middle-income tax cuts without giving them something so they wouldn't just vote those other things down AGAIN because they just recently did just that.

Yet people think that you can call a bluff on these jerks when they suddenly realize that denying unemployment or middle-income tax relief might harm their voters. They've already proved they do not care.

And no one on DU has offered anything better than the President's solution that would actually help the unemployed and middle-income Americans NOW - not at some unspecified future time in the clouds when this great principled debate is supposed to occur.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

69. May I Address My Colleague

You are 100% right...

It got 83 votes... If they got 83 votes they could override a presiden't veto in the next Congress. This bill was like a Christmas tree with something for everybody even for children (repugs) Santa doesn't like...

[opihimoimoi]

43. KnR :o)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axNPa3kiCZI&feature=related

some change of pace...Tahitian women in fashion show

[CitizenLeft]

80. thank you - been there, LOVED Tahiti

...has some of the most beautiful people in the world.

Wasn't so crazy about the French tourists, though. Made the American tourists look tame and polite.

[Milo_Bloom]

54. Juice the economy?

Even the the most rosy predictions don't see it doing much for the economy.

[whosinpower]

58. That is why he "manned up"

By getting Clinton to do his talking for him, while he walked out....

It is over. And he knows it.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

61. Did you forget this...

:sarcasm:

?

[RBInMaine]

65. Obama played the GOP like a fucking fiddle in this just as I said he would.

Here is what far lefters just aren't getting: It was Obama who played the GOP like a fiddle. He is the one who put THEM in a fucking bind. The GOP grand plan is to block and kill anything and everything Obama does. They HATE this guy and are set on saying NO to everything. Obama knew they'd never budge on middle class taxes only and that permanent cuts for the rich is their holy grail. However, Obama knew they HAD to deal on this and would have to with no more than a two year extension. If they didn't end their obstruction, he knew they would FUCK themselves this time in the court of public opinion. As I said a few weeks ago when I advocated this very deal, if they said "NO" even to this, the public would eviscerate them. In this deal, the GOP had to stop saying NO to everything, and they have had to swallow only a temporary extension and have had to swallow all kinds of other middle class benefits they can't stand including unemployment benefits. Die hard right winger TeaScum are pissed as hell at the GOPers over this. Obama scores a big victory with the passage of this both politically and eoonomically, and he'll do the same thing with the START treaty and other measures now that he has FORCED them past their disgusting logjamming tactic.

[mtnsnake]

73. His fiddle must be missing a couple strings because I think we just lost the House, did we not?

Yeah that's quite a tune he's playing, lol.

[whosinpower]

74. Obama is done like dinner

You wrote - If they didn't end their obstruction, he knew they would FUCK themselves this time in the court of public opinion.

So - according to you - by giving them their golden pony and allowing them to stop obstructing - he fucked them?!? On what planet do you live? Really. It this some parady of Austin Powers?

When you abandon those who brought you to the dance - do not be surprised if they no longer want to talk to you. If America wanted a republican in the White House - it would of elected one. America DID want a single payer, or at the very least a public option - and Obama cut it out - and THE DEMOCRATS PAID FOR IT.

If George W. Bush was in office right this instant - and the democrats gained majority in the house and gained seats in the Senate - you would be screaming blue murder for this betrayal.

Honestly - you are arguing that republican fiscal irrresponsibility is a good thing. That the Bush years were great. In other words - you are giving their policies credibility because no one wants to see the public eviserate them. Oh no - give them their golden pony and show them! Good grief.

[me b zola]

67. I'd laugh if it weren't so sad

"Juice the economy"? You mean the same tax cuts that have been in place for the last 10 years while the economy was driven over the cliff? Those tax cuts? Jesus.

If the President had put into action policies that would have helped the economy like a modern WPA program, then yeah, he'd easily win re-election. Instead he is, to borrow the administration's metaphor, steering the car in the same direction that the republicans (with conservadems assistance) were when they put us in the ditch. If you do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result...you need an intervention.

[mtnsnake]

68. Yes, that's why he had to embarrass us all by having Bill Clinton come in as a proxy

I love Bill, but what a dumb stunt that was by the two of them. If anyone fills in for the President, it should be his Vice President.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. That's Because Alpha Males Aren't Jealous Of Other Alpha Males

.

[whosinpower]

76. No....

It is because the great orator was at a loss for words, knowing full well he screwed up so badly he is officially a one termer.

[Sherman A1]

72. I suspect that not everyone here shares that opinion

He may be re-elected, but he has lost my vote with this tax package, the health care compromise and I seem to recall something about EFCA that hasn't happened, oh and Gitmo, DADT along with a few others.

[atreides1]

75. Just one little thing

'The Grand Compromise will juice the economy, raise people's spirits, bring down unemployment to more manageable levels, and ensure his reelection in 2012.'

What if none of this happens?

For myself, I'm getting kind of tired of "this is the best we can get"! He heard that with HCR, and now the best we got might very well go down in flames when the SCOTUS gets it.

Here's my theory, those CEO's he's meeting with, may provide some jobs here in the US, but not enough to make a big difference, which he'll be blamed for by his new Republican pals.

Then there is the adverse affect that cutting payroll taxes may have on Social Security, he'll get blamed for that as well.

And last, but certainly not least, the increase to the deficit, which the Republicans who get the message out better then the Democrats, as was seen by the recent election results, we''l be put squarely into his lap, and he'll own it.

But, it was the best we could get.:hide:

[Smashcut]

79. HAHAHAHAHAHA

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. If I Can See Further Than Other Men It Is Because I Stand On The Shoulders Of Giants."

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."

- Mahatma Gandhi

[KoKo]

81. Agee...he did a COUP with putting President Clinton on the Tubes...

and it WORKED. Dems FINALLY are getting their Message Together.

It's a Win for Obama. Whether it works out financially for the Markets and Consumers to get Jobs Back to America..remains to be seen.

But this is a HUGE WIN for OBAMA...and he should be proud of it.

[grahamhgreen]

84. ROFL - Maybe if he swithches parties... wait, he already has.

[jeff47]

85. I'd recommend reading what's in the 'compromise'

The stimulative things in the 'compromise' only last a year. They're also still too small. So they'll be petering out by the end of 2011, which will make the electorate feel the economy stalls in 2012. It's the direction of the economy that matters, not the actual values. So a stall will hurt Obama's re-election campaign.

[w4rma]

87. Do you live in Bizarro World? Is today Opposite Day, for you? (nt)

[Recovered Repug]

88. So instead of playing multi-dimensional chess,

or doing "the rope-a-dope", he was having the repub's lunch with a chinese mountain man?

[ZombieHorde]

89. I have a hard time reading the political winds. nt

[Occam Bandage]

90. It will juice the economy, by leaving taxes where they've been for the last decade.

It will raise people's spirits, as the public is enthralled with Washington horse-trading. By lowering taxes to 2010 levels, it will bring unemployment all the way down to 2010 levels.

[Dr.Phool]

92. Funniest post of the day!!! Did you steal it from the Onion?

[MrMickeysMom]

93. Excuse me, I have a question...

How would one be able to sow the seeds of the Republican's destruction, since these seeds have already been firmly planted in the Bush administration's goal to cut the taxes of the rich, start two wars off budget and keep those jobs going offshore?

This is a sudden change in direction?

Obama's sustaining, not catering to the same Republican greed, except now, it is more than ever sucking in lots of Democrats.

[Jakes Progress]

94. Those happy pills are really kicking in for ya.

Gotta love a cock-eyed optimist, even when they live in a pretend world of their own. Congratulations on not letting reality get you down.

[KansasVoter]

96. 3D chess shit again

[kentuck]

101. Wishin' and Hopin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k

[DemocratSinceBirth]

103. Just Keep Kickin My Thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA8OmK3qslw

[bushisanidiot]

106. +1

you're exactly right. and I second that "muah"!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

108. Even Mitt Romney Knows It's A Political Winner

Mitt Romney Comes Out Against Tax Deal
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, on Tuesday added his voice – and a 2012 flavor – to the growing chorus of Republican discontent with the tax compromise the party’s congressional leaders reached with President Obama.

Writing in USA Today on Tuesday, Mr. Romney, a likely leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, called the tax compromise “a disappointing agreement” and said the congress should work toward a better solution.

“Because the extension is only temporary, a large portion of the investment and job growth that characteristically accompanies low taxes will be lost,” Mr. Romney writes. “What some are calling a grand compromise is not grand at all, except in its price tag. The total package will cost nearly $1 trillion, resulting in substantial new borrowing at a time when we are already drowning in red ink.”

Much of the media attention about the tax compromise has been the split within the Democratic party, and in particular the anger among liberals with Mr. Obama.

But the growing chasm within the Republican party over the legislation may be more significant as Republicans gear up for a presidential contest next year. Taxes are a core issue for Republicans, and at least right now, there appears to be little consensus about how to judge the deal

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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/14/mitt-romn...

[Vinca]

113. If the economy by some miracle improves, the Republicans

will take credit for forcing the tax cuts for the rich. If they fail, they will paint them as Obama's tax cut and blame Obama for running up the deficit. I wouldn't put down money on a re-election pool just yet.

[COLGATE4]

114. Magical thinking. Just click your heels together three times

and repeat "There's no President like Obama... There's no President like Obama... There's no President like Obama" and SHAZAAM - everything will be hunky-dory.

[PurityOfEssence]

115. Typical Obama Cultist: I say it, therefore it's true

He's going to show us all yet. That's right, he's everything you ever hoped he could be, and someday he's going to turn and fight. He's going to become entirely different from his long legislative record and his gullible executive one and burst forth as the true perfection we always knew he'd be.

Cuz I say so.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

117. I Supported HRC Then. I Support The Democratic President Now

That being said I was making a raw political calculation, free of any partisan influence.

[PurityOfEssence]

119. I stand corrected; still, I see a huge leap of logic here, unsubstantiated by anything

It's way too early, and touting what is inherently an accommodation as some act of leadership that others will thrall to is ludicrous to me.

"Raw" is another word for "considerably less than half-baked".

[robcon]

116. I agree. He's secured his second term, unless something strange happens.

Triangulation works in electoral politics.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

121. Revisited

jenmito (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 09:50 PM
Original message
Believe it or not, a freeper nailed it:
Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 09:51 PM by jenmito
Hispanics pissed at GOP over DREAM
Gays and lefties placated and back in the Dem fold because of DADT
Moderates mostly happy about “Obama’s tax compromise”

Credit to backscatter712's thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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