Would you give S Collins, the Chair of Homeland Security in exchange for her vote on HCR Cloture?

[Perky]

It would be an interesting roll of the dice.

[damntexdem]

1. Yes, if it were a true reform bill.

Screw Hoaxland Security, anyway.

[DrToast]

2. Basically trad her and a cloture vote for Lieberman? Hell yeah, I would.

[Perky]

9. She would not necessarily becaome a Dem

[Bozita]

3. If it pisses off Lieberman, I'm all for it.

[blm]

22. heh....that's a bonus.

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[blm]

4. Oooooh.....good one, Perky.

Salute.

[yurbud]

5. why is Harry Reid so afraid to simply require a REAL stand on the floor and blab for hours

filibuster?

How long could an old fart like Lieberman keep going before even his corrupt ass would give out?

[Perky]

8. Because of thre rules of Cloture

A senator can hold the floor for as long as he would like and pass it off to any of 40 republicans

[backscatter712]

12. Agreed. Reading the phone book like in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington doesn't happen.

A real filibuster consists of one Republican on the Senate floor, combined with all the Democrats, who have to be there, so when the Republican announces "I suggest the absence of a quorum," the Democrats can sound off to keep the Senate from adjourning altogether.

We need filibuster reform. It's way too easy to obstruct in the Senate.

[yurbud]

20. what do you think that would do to the reputation of the Republicans?

[IndianaGreen]

6. I wouldn't give that Republican bitch my broken down vibrator!

Enough appeasement!

[bluestateguy]

7. If it was a decent bill, yes

nt

[backscatter712]

10. I'm game.

Joe Liberman's a narcissistic sociopath. Anything to marginalize him, including courting one of the few moderate Repubs left, is on the table in my view.

Though I don't think it's too much to ask that she switch parties in exchange for the chair...

[tularetom]

11. Yeah, then after the bill was signed by Obama I'd abolish the committee

And disband the Dept of Fatherland Security.

[grantcart]

13. No its time to stop looking like the Marx brothers and go for reconciliation

[Perky]

15. I think Reconciliation is Plan B here

And it is nos so much that we should not pull the trigger. I just think that we are terrible at messaging. and that the vociferous response of the repukes will be that we used parliamentary shenanigans to force a bill on the majority or Americans who do not want what the Dems put together.. That will be the message and we are so terrible at messaging that it will come back to bite us hard in the ass in 2010.

If we had better messengers than Reid or Pelosi.. I would say yeah, but I fear that approach because we don't.

[grantcart]

19. Any further bargaining undermines the arguments for the bill

If the bill is good then it should be put through with reconciliation

If the bill is not good then we shouldn't be giving up anything for it.

[bluedigger]

14. Yeah, but...

I think it is an unlikely scenario. If she left the Senate, her seat would be in play for the Democrats, with Tom Andrews a strong likelihood to challenge. She isn't going to do that.

I just realized I misread the post. Yeah, I'd give her a chairmanship for a vote on HCR, but only on the condition it actually passed.

[Perky]

16. you misunderstood. She is ranking memmber of the committee....Lieberman would be stripped

she would stay in the Senate.

[bluedigger]

17. Check.

Screwing Lieberman makes it even better.

[TheWraith]

18. Yes. nt

[smalll]

21. Free federally-funded jetpacks for the entire electorate of Maine --

Who can say no to jetpacks?


:shrug:

[Perky]

24. I want my flying car Durnit!!!!

Been waiting around dor that since I was about 4 years old.


Besides a Jetpack is nutting but a motorcycle by comparison

[eridani]

23. No, because it's a totally shitty bill n/t

[Phx_Dem]

25. Yes, but ONLY if that's the committee chair and Lieberman currently holds.

I'd make a deal with the devil to get Lieberman out of his committee chair. Though, I'd prefer to give it to Snowe.