Poll: Liberals Bail on Obama

[niceypoo]

According to a McClatchy-Marist poll released over the weekend, President Obama's approval rating has fallen considerably in the past month among Democrats. Seventy-four percent of registered Democratic voters said they approved of the President's job performance, down from 84% last month, while his disapproval rating among the same group nearly doubled from 11% to 21%.

However, while President Obama has lost liberal support, he has so far failed to gain it among independents. In the same McClatchy-Marist poll, 39% of independents said they approved of his job performance, while 52% said they disapproved. That's virtually unchanged from last months 38% versus 54% split.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/poll-liberals-bail-on-obama.php

Where will Obama's new republican pals be when the impeachment hearings begin? Why, seated at the prosecutors table of course.

[CakeGrrl]

1. If you think that HE thinks he has "Republican pals",

you still have your head in the clouds on this.

:eyes:

[whosinpower]

4. They will never trust a guy whose middle name is Hussein

Even if he gives them tax cuts for the wealthy, a highly controversial and coveted tax break on estate tax over 1 million dollars....and throws Social Security in just for good measure.....

His middle name is STILL Hussein.

[CakeGrrl]

10. Newsflash! Someone tell him - he MUST have forgotten.

:rofl:

[Lucky 13]

5. He seems to think so.

He just got done telling us how his deal "proves that both parties can in fact work together to grow our economy and look out for the American people."

Sounds friendly to me.

[CakeGrrl]

9. Duh. Why do people forget who owns the media, and how the spin will go

if THIS President goes 'cowboy'?

And despite what a lot of people here want, the national polls indicated that a majority of the American people want the partisan battles to stop. No one in their right mind thinks the Republicans would ever honor that, but the President is smart to sound like he's holding up his end of things.

[Lucky 13]

12. I have no idea what you mean in your first sentence.

Not sure if it's a grammar issue or what...

This isn't about the media. This is about the President's own statements.

He buddies up to republicans while lambasting the left. That is a fact. Admit it. Own it. He does.

[CakeGrrl]

15. My point, which you missed and is not a grammatical error, was that the President

needs to put forth the image of negotiating in good faith as the American people IN GENERAL are asking Washington to do. He needs to be on record. If he gives the Republicans a "fuck you", the media is not going to help support his position.

Unlike a lot of people on this site, I'm certain he knows damned well what shit the Republicans are. But unlike a lot of people on this site, he knows what it's going to take to break gridlock. Holding one's breath until the Republicans give you want you want without having to give them anything they want is a pipe dream.

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[CakeGrrl]

17. No, I'm liberal and I'm not offended.

Personally, I think he pissed off people who were doing what he pointed out and who flat-out don't like being called out for it.

And on top of it, people seem to forget that Republicans cast votes and have an influence on what passes and what doesn't. And their numbers are going to go higher. If you think playing an antagonistic pissing match with these assholes is going to be productive and advance Progressive causes one inch, I don't know where you're getting your idea that they'd play along.

So, until the American people get that more Republicans in Congress is a BAD thing, then you're going to have Presidents dealing with their "friends" across the aisle. It would do well if more people understood that the term can be used as a figure of speech instead of thinking that Obama is sending BFF notes to the likes of McConnell, Boehner and Issa.

[Lucky 13]

18. 1) There are degrees of liberal

2) Everyone has their own breaking point. I personally get offended when called drug addicted, sanctimonious, purist, fucking retarded, etc. But that's just me.

[emulatorloo]

22. Personally I don't believe silly spin from bloggers with an agenda.

[Lucky 13]

23. Me either!!! They're the worst!!!

:toast:

[emulatorloo]

27. right back at you!

:toast:

I think we are disagreeing, but I know exactly where you are coming from and feel bad that you feel demoralized. I feel demoralized too, we are all in this together I think.,

[Lucky 13]

33. Yeah, we're disagreeing... but fuck it... arguing sucks.

I'm just one little liberal dyke just trying to get by.

When people piss me off, I say so. Regardless of race, religion, party, affiliation, or gender.

Now, maybe I'm some sort of schizophrenic sociopath who gets offended by every little slight... but I seem to function well with the rest of society and am generally not mad on a daily basis... so that's probably not it.

It makes me laugh that this administration does something to PISS OFF a significant segment of their base... then when we say, "um, hey, that was offensive" people get up in your face with, "THAT'S A REPUBLICAN TALKING POINT!" or "WHAT'S YOUR AGENDA?" or "THEY WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT YOU!"

Fuck that. They said something offensive. I'm offended. I have every right to be offended. Stop being a dick and telling me to shut up.

That's all.

I wish I were a blogger with an agenda. I wonder if it pays well. Probably. Sadly I'm not one.... I'm just a girl in her basement typing her thoughts onto the interwebs. It pays exactly $00,000 a year and my coworkers are assholes. LOL

[CakeGrrl]

24. He didn't call ME that. If you want to argue semantics and grammar,

Rahm Emanuel and Robert Gibbs were not addressing YOU either.

Rahm referred to a policy, not a group of people. Feel free to bring up the verbatim quote.

Gibbs referred to the "Professional Left" - a group of paid pundits on the Left.

If you choose to believe that you were being addressed to fuel your anger and disgust, then that's your choice.

[emulatorloo]

28. yes, "pundits" "opinion makers"

[Lucky 13]

30. OMG. You are so right.

All this time I've been so offended, they were just talking to/about other people not me. So what if they are people I respect and identify with? Or policies I also wholeheartedly support?


Them:
"So those people that want single payer and public option and taxes for the wealthy... they are SO fucking retarded! Sanctimonious purist, liberals!"

Me:
"Hey... I'm a liberal and believe all those things... you got a problem?"

Them:
"Uh... nah dude. We were totally talking about OTHER liberals... not you. You're all good. By the way, can I have some cash and have you volunteer for me?"

[emulatorloo]

21. you have a thin skin. "read it before you make a judgement"

was the gist of it, and it was not aimed at you or me, it seemed more aimed at "opinion makers" - pundits and bloggers

Not "the Left"

[Proud Liberal Dem]

19. Sounds like political speech to me

As much as President Obama and a lot of other Democratic Congressmen and Senators want to, they can't just go around saying in public exactly what I'm sure they actually want to say about the Republicans but I doubt that they are nursing any serious affection for any of them. Alan Grayson probably comes the closest to having a Newt Gingrich-esque "bombthrower" on our side of the aisle but he is the exception to the rule of typical *polite* Washington beltway-speak. Of course, President Obama, however, did refer to the GOP as "hostage-takers" last week, so I don't know exactly how *enamored* of them he really is.

[emulatorloo]

26. Why don't you read what he said rather than spinning it to fit an agenda

Not everything fits the dark sinister DU narrative. Probably not much fits the dark sinister DU narrative. Don't take my posts personally, Sorry I am in a bad mood, way too much fixation on a word or two, and way too many conspiracies theories.

[Lucky 13]

35. LOL. There's that "a" word again.

I don't have an agenda. Can you refax it to me?

[dennis4868]

8. And if anyone here thinks that repubs are our...

Friend, I have a bridge to sell you...let's keep our eyes on the ball and fight the real bad guys here!

[Dr.Phool]

14. Obama said today, that the repubs are looking out for us.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x3635

He said it. Not me. I've never been fucked up enough to think a repuke had any of my interests at heart.

[dennis4868]

42. That's not what he said....

[asjr]

2. All the polls do is prove we are a fickle bunch.

[niceypoo]

29. My Grandmother used that word a lot

Anything that was odd was, "fickle."

I miss words like that from my childhood :(

[Lucky 13]

3. but... but... but... Rassmusen!

You can only disparage people and their ideology for so long. Eventually they wake up to the fact that it wasn't an isolated incident, you didn't "misspeak", and there is no four dimensional chess game.

[Supersedeas]

45. or Rassusen.

[xchrom]

6. Yay! The only important political party in the country - independents.

I don't know how anyone can tell anything from independents.

[BklnDem75]

7. Unrec

Dupe of a poll posted on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Keep trying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4653961#4655799

[pscot]

11. That's gotta sting!

:dem:

[Dr.Phool]

13. It's a damn lie!!! 647% of doct...er...liberal Democrats worsh..er support Obama!

It must be true. I read it on DU 346 times a day.

[emulatorloo]

20. Obama Job Approval Among Liberal Democrats 79%. Dec 6-12, 2010 Gallup

Dec 6-12, 2010

Obama Job Approval:

Democrat total 80%

Liberal Democrat 79%
Moderate Democrat 77%
Conservative Democrat 67%


http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

[BklnDem75]

25. Imagine that....

A current poll and not something that came out last week. Amazing!

[Number23]

37. You have to work EXTRA hard to make 74-79% approval ratings seem like folks have "bailed."

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Skittles]

31. wrong: it was Obama who bailed on liberals

[FrenchieCat]

32. He didn't compromise because of poll concerns to begin with......

he did it to make sure 98% didn't have a big hole in the wallet come January 1st.

That shows that his priority is exactly where we should want it; doing something,
not because its popular, but because it only made sense under the current times
we live in.

Some have twisted this compromise to mean he "wanted" to give the Rich their tax cuts,
when that just a lie. He wanted to make sure that the middle class didn't suddently
have a massive tax bill, which is exactly what would have happened if he would have
compromised nothing.

That's why leaders lead, and big mouths talk and do no more.

[Exilednight]

34. This tax cut makes absolutely no sense when you put it all together.........

He traded away tax cuts to the top 2% without conditions and in return all he got was extended UB. What is he going to trade away when this new round of UB runs out and unemployment is still hovering, or above, 10%?

[ClassWarrior]

44. What exactly would have happened if he had begun by...

...changing the narrative, then using the time he had to negotiate a deal in the public, rather then behind closed doors?

Perhaps he could have gotten an even better deal for the middle class. For instance, no Billionaire Bailout which will trash the economy. Or perhaps he could have gotten a better deal for the unemployed.

Nobody has a problem with what he accomplished. We have a problem with what he FAILED to accomplish, and which he made no effort to accomplish.

NGU.

[zulchzulu]

36. All I can say is this...

WHO FUCKING CARES!

If people are stupid, civics-challenged dumbasses when it comes to understanding BASIC information about governance, how laws get passed and the absolutely broken system that Obama is up against with having to deal with 60 vote super-majorities with Blue Dogs straying into the Party of No's camp, then I hope they join a 2% electoral third party to nowhere and get the fuck out of my face.

We have a LOT of work to get done and as one would not want a stupid fuckhead next to you in a battle field, I firmly suggest these people just LEAVE the Democratic Party.

As for "independents", they are the other PHONY people that are actually too embarrassed to really call themselves Republicans.

[ProudDad]

41. Obama is an essential cog in that "broken system"...

They couldn't pull it off without his willing help... :puke:

[sciencewins]

38. History shows that Liberals make the Most Positive Change...yet they are always Hated by All.

Just noticing the anger directed at liberals here on DU.
I understand that most people on DU are centrist democrats but still...

[Aramchek]

39. yet, they will vote for him, mysteriously.

;)

[ProudDad]

40. How's that n-dimensional chess think workin' for ya'

wink-wink...

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[GSLevel9]

46. pathetic HCR, more war, coddling the rich and throwing gays under the bus,

yeah that'll win friends.

[treestar]

47. So what strong leader have they chosen to follow?