My Dream Race-Obama-Romney-Palin

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Obama- 47

Romney-37

Palin-16

The Repubs have already thown the Tea Baggers under the bus and they haven't been sworn in yet.

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[WI_DEM]

2. Obama would get over 50% of the vote

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. If There Is Dramatic Improvement In The Economy

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[WI_DEM]

4. Obama in trial heats against both Romney and Palin wins right now with over 50% of the vote

and a Palin third party run wouldn't get much if any democratic support, so most of it would come from Romney--conservatives and right leading tea bagging indies.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I'd Like To See Those Heats

Last ones I saw he was in dog fights with Romney and Huck and comfortably beating Palin.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. The CorpoMedia propaganda machine has not been turned on yet.

[Ter]

13. Obama actually loses nationally by one point to Romney

The poll was last week, 47 to 46 I believe. Rest undecided or other.

[AlinPA]

5. In that race, most republicans would go for Palin in a big way (teabaggers and evangelicals) and

Romney would get a lot of the "Independents". Obama could win that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I Could Definitely See Sarah Palin Run If She Doesn't Get The Nomination

Some third party runs die on the vine, i.e, Buchanan, Nader, and Anderson*. But some flourish such as Perot and George Wallace.



*He got seven percent.

[AlinPA]

8. IMO, Thune-Rubio could be a strong ticket for them, if Thune comes out strong as a teabagger. He

has to get past their leader. I think the media will play up Thune because he is an "attractive" candidate, so the attention in the media will be on Thune vs Palin. A Stephen Colbert segment had a piece on that possibility saying "Thune looks like a president". I posted this a while back and was accused of being afraid of a handsome senator. Yes, I am afaid that America is dumbed down that badly.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. So The Repubs Put A Teabagger On The Bottom Of TheTicket To Co-opt Them

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[AlinPA]

10. It won't matter. The voters will care only about their appearance. How people look is

what dumbed down Americans care about.

[RichGirl]

14. Most republicans think Palin is a joke.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Rank And File Repubs Heart Her

http://www.pollingreport.com/p.htm

[Ter]

12. I don't think Obama is getting a full 47%

He may win with less.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I Think Palin Runs If She Doesn't Get The Nomination And There Isn't A Tea Bagger On The Ticket

She's the only one that can pull it off. Others would be marginalized.

To your question, yeah, Obama can win with anything over forty three or so...

However, if you look at history, most presidents who win, win with more votes than they did the first time...

[LisaL]

16. Using your logic if Romney teams up with Palin, they get

37 +16 =53 %

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Because Their Support Overlaps Until It Doesn't

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[burning rain]

19. Well, ye olde Free Republic vows to run a campaign to defeat Romney if he's nominated.

Although I suspect that despite their ranting and raving they'd sheepishly vote for him in the end, just as they did for McCain (very much like Coulter and Limbaugh, who swore up and down they'd never vote for the RINO McCain, but did a volte-face when he got the GOP nod).

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Except If You Have An Exceptional Third Party Candidate Like Palin

She probably won't win any states but she would definitely siphon a lot of votes from the FRepublican nominee.

[golfguru]

21. It will be Obama/Biden Vs Daniels/Rubio

you heard it here first. Repubs will be looking past charisma
and for some one who has proven success in balancing budgets.
Rubio is obvious choice to split Latino votes.

Although I will also give Pawlenty a high probability.
Governors always have a better shot.

Thune & Barbour will peter out early.
Christy is not running.

Newt, Huck, Mittens are out....all also rans.
Palin...has not proven grasp of geo-political issues and a quitter.
But will make a lot of noise due to hard core support.

[Mopar151]

27. Santorum is getting early push in NH

He's already up here greasing up the GOP old guard, getting his mug on Ch 9.

[golfguru]

37. Oh yes I am sure Ricky wants it bad

but has little or no chance in primaries. My guess is people
like him like to run because it gives them lot of face time
in the media. Which can then be translated into future jobs/appointments/
TV analysts/and runs for smaller statewide offices.

[Life Long Dem]

22. Romney is for gun control.

Republicans are against gun control. A Romney/Palin ticket doesn't fit. :nopity:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Bush Pere Was Pro Choice Until He Wasn't

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[pnorman]

24. I'm not sure that Huckbee can be ruled out completely!

During the 2008 primary race, I once did a web-search on the principal GOP candidates and unionism. All but one were predictably anti-union to one degree or other, although generally using weasel-words. But to my great surprise, Huckabee was pretty explicitly "on the side of the union working person"! Here's a Google 'hit':

Huckabee: Unions are the Future

At least one Republican presidential candidate understands growing economic inequality in the American economy and that joining a union can lead to a better life for workers and their children.

In last night's Republican debate, moderator Chris Matthews asked all the candidates: "Are unions good for America?" Governor Mike Huckabee responded:

The real fact is, unions are going to take a more prominent role in the future for one simple reason: A lot of American workers are finding that their wages continue to get strapped lower and lower while CEO salaries are higher and higher.

And the reality is that when you have the average CEO salary 500 times the average worker, and you have the hedge fund manager making 2,200 times that of the average worker, you're going to create a level of discontent that's going to create a huge appetite for unions.

So unions are the natural result of workers finally saying, "Look, I can't go from a $70,000 year job to a $15,000 a year job and feed my family of four." That's when unions are going to come back in roaring form.

http://www.changetowin.org/connect/2007/10/huckabee_unions_are_the_future.html

I see absolutely NO good reason to ritually "demonize" a Republican ,just to pander to some of the "ideological purists" here. So, trying to put myself in the mind of the "typical union working person", I'd probably be impressed with him! He has a "Lil Abner" sort of charm, although he clearly is no dummy--quite the contrary! And few of those "average union working people" would be as "put off" at fundamentalist Christianity as I am.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Three Points

1) Rush Limbaugh pilloried him for his empathty for the working man.

2) He was the Repub I disliked the least until my gf reminded me of what he said about gay people.

3) He would probsbly be the Repub's strongest candidate.

[former9thward]

26. Palin will not run third party.

It costs too much money to get ballot access. The last person to do it well was Perot and he had hundreds of millions to throw at lawyers, courts, ballot election law experts and signature gathers to get on the ballot. Palin does not have that type of money. Only Bloomberg does if he decided to try. Palin and her crew just want to use fame to make money. She is not interested in running for anything.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. Where Did George Wallace Get His Money?

That's the model for a Palin candidacy...

[former9thward]

30. George Wallace originally ran as a Democrat within the primary structure.

But much more important is that Wallace ran before campaign finance reform was signed in the mid-70s. He could take large contributions from individuals. When McCarthy ran against Johnson in 1968 he was financed by three multi-millionaires, primarily Stewart Mott of the GM fortune. That could not happen today. Contributions are limited to $2400 to a candidate by an individual. So the only way, in the present era, that you can run third party and hope to be successful is if you are independently wealthy. Palin is not in that category.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I Knew He Was A Dem

I am impressed by your knowledge of his finances...Why would a bunch of fat cats bank roll an economic populist who was siphoning votes from the right?

[former9thward]

32. I have knowledge of Eugene McCarthy's finances who I mentioned in the post.

And I have knowledge of campaign finance laws. I don't have knowledge of Wallace's money, just know his history and that it was a different time as far as campaign financing and contributions.

[ProudDad]

35. You're partially correct...

Thanks to "Citizens United" there's no limit on anonymous corporate propaganda for/against any candidate...

[Mopar151]

29. She may try out the early primaries

Build up a little momentum, shake some more $$$$$$ outa the rubes.

[golfguru]

38. correct she will build up a huge campaign chest

and then drop out. She will then use that pile of dough to
push more teabaggers.

[Robbins]

33. Polls

You need to be carefull which ones you take seriously.PPP has good track record with results.

Republicans will nominate a frontrunner.In recent history this always happen.The Republican race Is between Romney,Palin,Huchabee,
and Gingrich.Don't count out Palin winning the Nomination.Quinnipac had her ahead for the Republican nomination and losing to Obama.
I believe Obama will eather face Palin or It will be Romney If Huchabee and Gingrich can take enough tea Bagger far right votes
from Palin.

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[Sheepshank]

36. Funny to think of Palin and Romney on the same ticket

neither have an ego malleable enough to settle for VP.

Therefore it can never be a combined ticket.