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Fri Dec-17-10 10:12 AM
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BREAKING: Obama Promise Meter at over 80%, large majority of democrats happy with him |
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I'd thought facts about Obama would be a good thing to start the morning off with.
Your take?
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:14 AM
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pass the butter and salt, please.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:14 AM
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2. I don't think I'm a Democrat any more. |
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Fri Dec-17-10 02:54 PM
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61. WRONG!! I've been fighting for Obama since early 2007. |
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Do a search on DU to find out for yourself.
This compromise (along with the PO cave) was the final straw for me.
My disagreements with Obama and the Democrats is based on their unwillingness to do what we sent them to do. They cave on everything and are unwilling to fight when they should. I'm sick of it.
It's disappointing to see so many fall for it.
My criticism is meant to push and educate. If you're too blind to see it that is not my problem.
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Fri Dec-17-10 04:03 PM
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63. "My criticism is meant to push and educate." |
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As opposed to the kind which is clearly admitted flamebait and hyperbole.
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Fri Dec-17-10 05:23 PM
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Fri Dec-17-10 05:07 PM
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66. The posts of yours I've seen seemed less about education and more about inciting |
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hatred against Obama.
I get the impression that you and others around here don't see any difference between W and Obama. And I don't see a lot of educating going on.
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Fri Dec-17-10 05:22 PM
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68. I don't see a lot of difference anymore. |
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And that depresses the hell out of me.
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Fri Dec-17-10 05:32 PM
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70. I don't get the impression you ever did |
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One was a fascist who raped and pillaged this country, the other strikes compromises in an attempt to help people who are in immediate need during trying times.
I see a HUGE difference between them.
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Fri Dec-17-10 05:40 PM
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71. I feel so sorry for you. |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:28 AM
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16. Where ever really a Democrat? |
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85. Okay, that was almost English. |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:29 AM
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20. You're unhappy with Obama keeping 80% of his promises and >80% of dems approving of him?!!?!? |
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Fri Dec-17-10 01:51 PM
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49. Damn those people for not seeing things my way. |
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:54 AM
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sarcasm fail. Projection WIN.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:56 AM
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35. Oh, you're an "Independent" now. I see. |
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Fri Dec-17-10 02:01 PM
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50. Then why are you here. |
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Find the "I don't know what I am anymore underground".
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86. "Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives" |
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Sat Dec-18-10 04:31 PM
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I laughed out loud when I read that...
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:15 AM
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3. But a small handful of anonymous posters on an internet discussion board say he sucks! |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:15 AM
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4. That is why we lost Kennedy's seat, and did so well in the midterms, because all those Democrats |
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were so happy with the current direction they came out in large numbers and swayed the election
opps, sorry, wrong assumption
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:18 AM
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7. We lost the mid-terms because independets stayed home and |
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the right wing nuts came out of the wood work.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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9. A lot of people stayed home, especially the young who were Democratic /nt |
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:41 AM
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45. You're right - you're making the wrong assumptions. (nt) |
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Fri Dec-17-10 01:43 PM
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48. Liberal turnout in 2010 was as high as it was in 2006. |
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The difference was that moderates either stayed home or voted Republican.
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Fri Dec-17-10 02:13 PM
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52. Where did that "fact" come from. I hear many repeat it . . . no one ever sources it. |
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I just wonder how we liberals are so easily identified . . .
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:17 AM
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6. How are we doing in Congressional seats? Oh yeah, we lost a whole bunch of them. |
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And most of those lost were DLCers who think similarly to Obama. Obama is toast. Expect a Republican.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:18 AM
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8. You mean like Finegold and Grayson? |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:20 AM
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10. We lost Feingold's seat because of "coattails" in reverse, and his vote on HCR /nt |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:22 AM
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11. that is what happened to Martha Coakley too. The HCR and Scott Brown |
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promising to be a vote against it.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:27 AM
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15. That and because coakley was too lazy to go out and campaign, but mostly because |
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Mass, was not happy about HCR, I agree
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Fri Dec-17-10 02:36 PM
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56. "Mostly because Mass was not happy about HCR.... |
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Hmmmm.....Is that why MA Dems retained every House seat?
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:24 AM
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41. "coattails in reverse"????? Just the opposite! |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:26 AM
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13. WTF does that have to do with Obama!?!?! Historically we did great, FDR lost more seats and was more |
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...popular than Obama.
Thx for playing the Hate Obama Always game
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:31 AM
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22. Obama is no FDR, he fought for Democratic principles, and this has nothing to do with hate. This |
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has to do with half-hearted policies and compromises
Full of Sound and Fury, signifying nothing
Bill Clinton worked with the repukes to give us NAFTA, Welfare reform, and deregulation, which is what was started by reagan, and signed by him
It helped bring us to where we are today, and with a significant number Clinton advisors part of the Obama administration, this should surprise no one
When Johnson escalated the Viet Nam war, progressives went against him, not because they hated him, but because they were against his policy on the war
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:55 AM
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34. Obama is the only one fighting for Democratic ACTIONS, no some illusion of "principles" |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:33 AM
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23. I thought FDR gained seats because he laid out his plan and |
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pushed the people to send Democrats so he could implement his plan.
Historically, however, presidents usually lose seats in Midterm.
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:13 PM
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75. Um..you really don't know what you are talking about. |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:24 AM
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12. WOW!!! Unrecing a majority of dems happy with Obama keeping 8 out of 10 promises so far?!!?!?!? |
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A good tell tale of the attitudes on this board
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:29 AM
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19. Good tale of how many trolls are here |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:30 AM
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21. FUDrs are strong on this board (Fear Uncertainty Doubt sown mostly by astroturfers) |
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:08 AM
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39. Fear, Uncertainty, Concern, and Kvetching? |
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what would that acronym be? ;)
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Too bad some on this site don't want to take any positive news concerning our President.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:35 AM
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24. LOL! Broken promises my ass. |
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This man knows how to get shit done -- important and vital shit.
OBAMA 2012!!
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:55 AM
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33. So why hang out at a Dem site? |
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I don't understand...you hate and so you spend your time telling it over and over for what purpose?
Go on, there's another reason, admit it.
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:02 AM
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37. you suffer from more of an abuser syndrome, huh? |
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I hope your bitter little heart can take it when he gets reelected.
Enjoy!!
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:32 AM
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44. I agree with you but, if there's no viable alternative, I'll vote for him and hold |
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my nose. No money and no work for him, though.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:42 AM
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26. Good, then he should cruise to victory.... |
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Won't need my vote. Good for him and good for all of you guys. Hope you all have fun with your wonderful new "moderate", "independent" friends who love you and him and will carry you all to victory.
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:43 AM
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27. Oh those crazy facts!!! I know I am proud he is our President. I can not even fathom what |
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Fri Dec-17-10 05:15 PM
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67. So what on the Republican agenda has been passed? |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:49 AM
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I honestly don't know any Democrats who are happy with him. All of the Democrats I know are hoping for a strong primary challenger.
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Sat Dec-18-10 02:02 AM
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83. yeah... well NONE of the Dems I know in real life have |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:53 AM
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32. Yea, but that's in the real world. When entering La-La-Land, this has no meaning |
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Fri Dec-17-10 10:59 AM
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36. He is a good man doing the best he can for us, and I thank him for it. |
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:07 AM
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38. since when are promises measured on a percentage basis? |
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poppy broke basically one promise ("read my lips") and he got reamed for it.
having a long list of other promises kept normally doesn't do much to counter the effect of breaking central campaign promises.
i think this tax cut deal is a politically astute deal for obama's self-interest in getting himself re-elected as it makes independents, moderates, and some less irrational republicans more comfortable with him as not-a-tax-raiser. for them, they're happy obama is breaking his promise to raise taxes. however, i think it's terrible for the economy, terrible for long-term effects on the safety net, terrible for the distribution of wealth, and terrible for democratic congressional prospects. but good for obama.
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Fri Dec-17-10 11:27 AM
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42. Most voters are uninformed |
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...and don't even know what is going on
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Fri Dec-17-10 02:19 PM
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55. But you will keep trying to make sure they know how much Obama really sucks |
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Or is this your calculation?
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51. He followed through on the stuff nobody cared about (faith based funding) and dropped the big ones: |
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Public option for health insurance reform
DADT
Employee Free Choice Act
End tax cuts for the rich
Bring "change from the grassroots" to Washington.
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53. don't you realize that DADT is going to be repealed this weekend?? |
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as always, haters want to hate.
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72. Peachy. It only took two freaking years. Of course, it hasn't actually happened yet. nt |
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77. Two years, eh. What were you doing for the last 17 years? |
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Because I never heard anyone really say peep over this during that time. Not during the 7 years of the Clinton administration, after he passed it in 1993. And certainly not during the 8 years of the Bush administration. All of a sudden, Barack Obama tells you he's going to get it repealed, and it takes two years ... and that's bad?
Get a grip folks. The man is keeping his promise. No one has done that for 17 years. Be glad.
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Sat Dec-18-10 03:59 PM
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88. We're supposed to be glad because he's not as bad as Clinton? |
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Wow, that's an awfully low threshold.
Just think, in another couple of years, we might get Employee Free Choice Act.
Wall Street got its bailout first fucking thing.
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Fri Dec-17-10 02:48 PM
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59. The senate had more to do with those things than the President. Filibusters do stop |
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things. He is not a dictator or king.
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73. No . . . he's the Commander in Chief. I believe he could simply REQUIRE DADT to be dropped |
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by executive action.
But that's not his style. His style is to shilly-shally around and then appoint a year-long "study."
"Change doesn't come FROM Washington," said Candidate Obama, "it comes TO Washington."
Damn, I miss that guy.
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78. Executive Order can be overturned as easily as it's enacted, which is why |
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the President has said that it needs to be repealed by Congress so it can be made into law.
He thinks for the long term, not about doing the quick, easy stuff, because Republicans will be happy to undo whatever they can as soon as they can.
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always making sense. It's amazing how little these keyboard revolutionaries actually know about how government works.
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Sat Dec-18-10 01:22 AM
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81. Well, hey, someone's gotta do it |
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I'm just baffled about how the President is getting lambasted for not doing things faster, given all the absolute CRAP everyone wants fixed yesterday.
Ridiculous.
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82. And everyone knows the republicans |
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have blocked everything, yet they seem to get a pass around here. It's all Obama's fault for not being a chest-thumping, leg-breaking, profanity slurring bully. I swear these people subconsciously (or secretly) admire Bush/Cheney.
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89. I admire the way Bush-Cheney forced the opposition to fold like a cheap suit |
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when it really mattered. On edit, consider how they rammed the Iraq invasion through Congress. The Dems could have filibustered, but hell no they didn't.
Looking back on it now, is there any chance in hell that Senator Compromise wouldn't have voted FOR the invasion if he'd been in the Senate?
President Compromise can play hardball when it's stuff he really cares about, like Wall Street bailouts.
Helping the average American citizen?
Yeah, not so much.
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87. Ah, the gratutious snide remark . . . thanks for that. |
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All I know is that if Bush wanted it done, it would have gotten done.
You can make all the excuses you want to for President Compromise, but like the woman at the TownHall meeting, "I'm tired of having to defend him."
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58. I Guess It Just Goes To Show... |
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Link?
Where are they re: the 80% approval?
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