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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:26 PM
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Poll: Obama Ekes Out 71-Point Lead Aginst Bernie Sanders in Theoretical Primary Challenge
Is it a slow enough news day to speculate about primary challenges to Barack Obama? No, but Magellan Strategies has polled the question in New Hampshire, so we have to speculate about it anyway. And the gist: Obama currently faces no serious primary threat.

Magellan, commissioned by NHJournal.com, polled 1002 registered voters, including 661 Democrats and 341 independents, who can vote in the either party's primary. (Minor caveat: Because all of the action in 2012 will be on the Republican side, it's likely that fewer independents will pull a Democratic ballot than they did in the 2008 primary.) Obama's favorable rating among Democrats is 91.2 percent; among all of the voters likely to vote in the Democratic primary, he has a 77.3 percent approval rating. So, no surprise that the trial heats go like this:

Barack Obama - 59 percent
Hillary Clinton - 28 percent

Barack Obama - 78 percent
Howard Dean - 10 percent

Barack Obama - 79 percent
Bernie Sanders - 8 percent

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2010/12/17/poll-obama-ekes-out-71-point-lead-in-possible-bernie-sanders-primary-challenge.aspx
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:30 PM
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1. Let me guess: President Palin?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:30 PM
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2. I wonder if Obama is feeling the heat about now?
hahahahaha! :-)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:56 PM
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21. lol!! Good one!
:thumbsup:
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:35 PM
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3. that was good for a laugh
:)
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:47 PM
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4. Its early yet, give Obama time to move further right
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:49 PM
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5. Bernie Sanders fought the good fight, did not make things personal
and is undeserving of any ridicule.

Not helpful.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:48 PM
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16. How is this ridicule?
I didn't click the link, but I don't think anything in the OP is offensive.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:14 PM
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19. Yep, not helpful. Just like the 'primary Obama' whiners.
They were the ones promoting Bernie as Democratic primary challenger...except, they forgot one thing.

He's not a Democrat.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:49 PM
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6. kind of a ridiculous poll don't you think?
seriously stupid.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:51 PM
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7. ....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:52 PM
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:00 PM
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9. I'd still vote for Sanders, or Dean, even for Hillary.
Then, when Obama gets the nomination, I'll vote for him, but I won't lift a finger to work for him (nor donate to either him or the national Democratic Party).
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:00 PM
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10. Even HRC is running more than 30-points behind--she would have been the only serious
contender, but of course she isn't going to run and has said so repeatedly--as has Howard Dean.
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:18 PM
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12. Making Hillary SOS all but eliminated any possibility
"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." - Sun-Tzu, Chinese military leader
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:29 AM
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32. You forgot the rest of Obama's tactic
"abandon your platform and co-opt your enemies after victory." - Obama 2008
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:07 PM
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11. How many of those polled knew who Bernie Sanders was?
I bet most don't but if you described what Sanders believed versus Obama, most would side with Sanders.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:32 PM
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13. Interesting. Reminds me of Hillary's numbers pre-2008
before anyone mounted a serious campaign against her.

Hmm...
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:11 PM
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14. a squeaker
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:45 PM
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15. I would proudly vote for Dean or Sanders.
But there won't be a serious primary challenge to Obama in 2012. Someone, or two, will run, but they will get little support, from the party and the voters, imo.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:49 PM
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17. +1000 for use of the word "ekes"...
:spray:
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:14 PM
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18. No way - the actual margin would be half this
:)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:56 PM
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20. Notice they didn't even bother doing matchups against Kuch, Feingold, Grayson
And yet, the unending cries of "Grayson/Kucinich/Feingold 2012!!!" will continue to blanket DU. :eyes:
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:06 AM
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22. Senator Sanders is not a Democrat.
No primary is needed for him to run in the General Election.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:08 AM
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23. Mental masturbation n/t
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:43 AM
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24. what i would like to see
is Grayson's polling numbers. Hes charismatic, young, articulate, principled and willing to put up a fight unlike Obama. Give him time and a Grayson would defeat him in a primary. I think Sanders biggest draw back is the age, americans always discriminate by age. But good luck to all the challengers, may the best man/woman win
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 02:00 AM
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25. Grayson just got his ass handed to him by Dan Webster.
Complete destruction. Floor wiping, cleat marks on the face.

If he can't get within 20 points of Dan Webster, he ain't a viable Presidential candidate.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:06 AM
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26. Only due to money bombs from the likes of the Koch brothers.
I think Grayson would be a fine presidential candidate. I know that many people would walk across party lines to vote for him.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:08 AM
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27. .
Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 03:10 AM by avaistheone1
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:59 AM
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41. And people wouldn't donate money against him if he ran for president? N.T.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:44 AM
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35. so what?
replace Obama's name with Grayson and he would lose by a bigger margin. The fact that he even won in that heavy conservative district just shows how well he will perform in a purple/light red district.

Grayson 2012
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:11 AM
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28. I feel like I would be throwing my vote away to give it to Obama.
At this point I feel betrayed. I would feel like I would be voting for Bush if I voted for Obama again.

I rather we have another Democratic candidate.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:49 AM
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29. NOOOOOOOO! W ARE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:17 AM
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33. too bad that's about10.5 years too late
the 'W' are doomed part, that is. :)
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:02 AM
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30. With those margins, how can anyone say it would hurt Obama's general election?
It's not like you have to dig deep in the war chest to win with those numbers, right? So people can stop with the charges that a primary would assure us President Palin, right?
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:22 AM
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31. I'd vote for Dean in a heartbeat.
eom
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:56 PM
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43. The Good Doctor Has Spoken On the Foolishness of a Primary Challenge to President Obama
The good governor and finest DNC chair we have had in a generation in not going to run. He's telling people not to run. Gov. Dean is a pragmatic progressive. Results matter. Actions have consequences.

The Republicans are betting we ignore Dr. Dean's advice and wisdom. I won't.
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:49 AM
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34. :)
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:52 AM
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36. Sanders is awesome, knows how to play the game in DC, so he's not going to run. n/t
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:30 PM
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37. Enough with the inane polls. This administration sure loves its polls, doesn't it?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 04:13 PM
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 04:18 PM
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39. Democrats who dislike Pres. Obama are in a small minority. Bookmarked for future reference. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 04:30 PM
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:21 AM
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42. Message to all you herd animals
don't let it leave you behind.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:07 PM
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44. A serious primary challenge is not going to happen.
Not for the 2012 election. There's not enough support for it.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:25 AM
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45. +100..
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