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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:27 PM
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The Dish: The Long Game And Israel
Some readers understandably mock me for my occasional "meep meep" posts about Obama's shrewd sense of strategy. But I think the mockery is sometimes based on a misunderstanding. I do not now and never have believed that Obama is some kind of guru, capable of seeing far into the future, a Jedi president capable of foiling all enemies with cunning and foresight.

The, er, evidence does not exactly back this up. The errors of judgment and foresight are pretty clear - from letting Clinton win New Hampshire to Ben Nelson's months-long fiddling over health insurance to the collapse of cap-and-trade. My point is rather that he has a clear pattern of behavior that is acutely tuned to the longterm. He lets things take their course. Rather than tipping his hand early and decisively, he tends to hang back, aloof, distant, watching. Only when events have occurred that have proven the pointlessness of options he doesn't favor does he forthrightly present his own. And quite often, he almost seems intent on orchestrating such public failures of others' (and his own apparent) options - even at his own short-term cost.

And so on Israel, we have seen a laborious, frustrating, endless attempt to get the Israeli government to get serious about stopping settlements and work on a peace deal. The constant humiliations at the hand of Netanyahu, the contempt shown the US by Netanyahu's coalition partners, the massive bribes just to get Israel contemplating a minimal settlement freeze, the Pavlovian way in which Israel's reflexive supporters have done all they can to stymie any movement ... well, it's been an exhaustive experience, hasn't it?

But here's the point: it has proven to almost everyone that nothing serious can get done between the current Israeli polity and the promising, if still inchoate, nation-builders in the West Bank. Obama has not asserted this; he has demonstrated it. And this is the key difference between Bush and Obama. Bush constantly declared things to be so. Obama waits until everyone sees it for sure.

The rest of the article is here....http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/12/the-long-game-and-israel.html
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:05 PM
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1. Here's his point: the UN will finally recognize Palestine on its own terms, not Israel's; but, the
flip side of Middle East policy by default is that the world will also finally tire of Iran's intransigence, and then . . . Boom!

This patience, moreover, does not go nowhere. Failure leads to new terms for success. And what Obama has done is get Netanyahu unwittingly to make the global argument that a peace settlement cannot be won with Israel's support and cooperation - but can only be imposed somehow from outside. The two years of trying so clearly to make the old model work has ... proven the old model is finished. Now watch the U.N.

I might add that exactly the same endless and agonizing process has consumed the US engagement with Iran. What Obama is trying to prove is that Iran will eventually bow to economic and political pressure on nukes. But if the long process fails to achieve that ... then the case for war will be stronger.

The long game works both ways in the Middle East.


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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:28 PM
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2. Wait, so by failing....he is really winning?
Err, no.

I am a huge fan of President Obama and am thrilled that we have a serious leader who represents the nation well, but Andrew takes the Obama love just too far here.

Failing to move the Israeli's in the right direction and allowing Netanyahu to make a fool out of him is simply not a successful strategy no matter how you try to slice it.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 03:33 PM
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3. According to many and polls...
he is NOT failing! Even the latest tax deal with the repubs is liked by 54% of Dems!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:19 PM
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4. And, here's the worst-case scenario: a repeat of Lebanon '06, only this time Israel bombs Iran and
the Gaza, killing a hell of a lot more people than all the wars that preceded it, including 1967.

Obama repeats Bush's do-nothing approach, but Iran (quite predictably) blames the U.S. for providing the weaponry that has been used by the Israelis. The Saudis, having helped set up this conflict, are also targeted as Iran launches its remaining longer-range missiles against U.S. and Saudi targets in the region. The U.S. retaliates, resulting in the closure of the Straights of Hormuz, and a massive destabilizing shock to global markets. This ignites a series of conflicts around the world.

The resulting war is long, bloody and global. The U.S. ends up an impoverished, much reduced hemispheric power, ruled by emergency decree from Colorado Springs by the military and the Department of Homeland Security.
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