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Sat Dec-18-10 11:49 AM
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DADT Repeal cloture motion passes, 63/33 |
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:50 AM
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:51 AM
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:55 AM
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and shedding tears of joy. :)
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:03 PM
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24. I think there are at least two reasons Repubs didn't block this |
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And we should give credit where credit is due. First, to Senator Lieberman, who did after all work hard to achieve this. Second, to the White House: they secured the support of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Department of Defense, and ordered the report that came out in favor. It's a hard thing for even Republicans to go against the desires of the US Military.
Also, the Log Cabin Republicans deserve some credit. WE deserve credit for all our calls and letters.
The Republicans didn't go along with this out of the goodness of their hearts or their adherence to the Constitution and civil rights. Look how they stood against the 9-11 firefighters, and fought successfully against passage of the DREAM Act.
They did this because they have a lot of gay constituents, because they ran out of reasons to oppose it.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:51 AM
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4. Wow, is right. So it goes to a vote on the actual bill now? |
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:54 AM
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11. tomorrow night, with only 51 votes required to repeal. |
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:51 AM
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5. Roughly 25 minutes until the final vote. But this was the biggest obstacle to overcome. n/t |
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:52 AM
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6. I believe the vote won't come until tomorrow night |
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But it's a done deal now.
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:01 PM
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21. C-Span was had up 12:15 ET vote for today. Maybe they were talking about ........... |
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this vote and the Senate moved it up. There's probably a lot of Senators who are pissed for being made to work on a Saturday.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:52 AM
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63 yes. It should pass the real vote easily. Eat your heart out John McCain.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:53 AM
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8. Thank you to everyone who made this possible! |
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:53 AM
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9. 30 hours must pass between now and final vote, correct? Sunday night or Monday morning. nt |
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:54 AM
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Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 11:56 AM by Phx_Dem
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:55 AM
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12. I predict more than 63 votes for repeal. |
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Some Republicans will switch now that they know it's going to pass.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:57 AM
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Easy to be on the right side of history, when the result is a foregone conclusion.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:57 AM
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18. Some Rs who voted for cloture will vote against the final bill |
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But all we need are 51 votes, so it's in the bag.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:55 AM
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14. Wow! This is so exciting!! |
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So now they have the final vote, right?
It's going to be a very Merry Christmas this year!
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:56 AM
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15. Our 4 calls and 2 letters to new Senator Kirk (R-IL) at least ... |
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got him to vote for cloture. Yay for all those who called his office (it wasn't easy).
Now, I fully expect him to vote against it in the final bill. In which case he will get no formal thanks from me. (A yea vote will get a thank you note and/or call.)
Mr. Frazzled called his office within a minute of his voting against cloture for the DREAM Act, about which we had also called, expressing his disappointment.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:57 AM
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17. What Happened To Murkoski And Brown? |
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:58 AM
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20. Both voted for cloture, I believe |
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And even some surprises, like Senator Kirk from Illinois. I don't think his vote was expected.
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:16 PM
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29. I was surprised by Kirk, too. The others who voted for repeal, Voinovich, |
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Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 01:07 PM by jenmito
Snowe, Collins, Brown, and Murkowski said they'd vote for repeal. And they DID this time, since the tax bill is now law.
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Sat Dec-18-10 11:58 AM
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19. Superb. Great. Nifty. Tremendous. Long-overdue. |
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And largely symbolic.
If it really mattered the GOP, and its Democratic Senate allies, would not have allowed it to pass
The rich are still booted, spurred and ready to ride. The rest of us are still saddled, and ready to be ridden.
Most importantly the passive will glance at the headlines, and go shopping. Those who have jobs, and money to do it with, at least.
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:03 PM
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23. It's As Symbolic As The Fourteenth Amendment |
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:06 PM
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25. That, if you recall... |
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...was symbolic, for a hundred years, after its passage.
Evil never sleeps.
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:12 PM
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27. You couldn't be more wrong when you say it's "largely symbolic." |
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This is history being made! I guess you don't know any gay people and/or don't CARE about gay people. Like Biden said, "This is a big f'in' deal!"
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:16 PM
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30. It's a national disgrace there was ever a vote. |
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We’ve dragged ourselves up to the level of every other OECD state, more or less, and it took a massive effort to actually do it. The win is gratifying—the need for the battle is a national embarrassment.
As with the passage of ACA, another triumph, by the way, the magnitude of any celebrations today are proportional, directly proportional, are a precise measure of, how far we are behind.
Winning this one is better than losing this one, but that's all it's better than.
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:02 PM
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22. I love being alive to see history being made. n/t |
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:06 PM
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26. K&R!!! When I heard the Repubs. saying "yes," I shouted out, "YAY! |
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It's gonna pass!" And when it passed with 63 votes, I couldn't be happier. :bounce: :woohoo: :bounce:
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Sat Dec-18-10 12:13 PM
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28. Party right now on John McCain's lawn! #DADT |
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