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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:11 PM
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Biden walks back "no damage from Wikileaks" remark
this is how they roll. Constantly walking shit back. Good cop/bad cop, sometimes it's even the same cop.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/18/wikileaks/index.html

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But this new example from Joe Biden is extraordinary, and reveals how government officials are willing to say absolutely anything -- even things they know are false -- to demonize WikiLeaks. First, here's Biden with MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell -- on Thursday, December 16 -- happily insisting that the leak of the diplomatic cables has done no damage to U.S. relations (video below):

MITCHELL: This is Vice President Joe Biden, who told me that the leaked cables created no substantive damage -- only embarrassment . . . .

BIDEN: And I came in almost all to embraces - it wasn't just shaking hands - I know these guys, I know these women - they still trust the United States - there's all kinds of --

MITCHELL: So there's no damage?

BIDEN: I don't think there's any damage. I don't think there's any substantive damage, no. Look, some of the cables are embarrassing . . . but nothing that I'm aware of that goes to the essence of the relationship that would allow another nation to say: "they lied to me, we don't trust them, they really are not dealing fairly with us."


But here's the very same Joe Biden, in a preview of an interview with David Gregory -- taped the following day, Thursday, December 17 -- to air this Sunday on Meet the Press, gravely lamenting that Julian Assange has harmed American foreign relations (video below):

This guy has done things that have damaged and put in jeopardy the lives and occupations of other parts of the world. He's made it more difficult for us to conduct our business with our allies and our friends. For example, in my meetings -- you know I meet with most of these world leaders -- there is a desire to meet with me alone, rather than have staff in the room: it makes things more cumbersome -- so it has done damage.


In one day, Biden went from giddily declaring that "I don't think there's any damage" to gravely warning that "it has done damage." I have no idea whether Biden was told that his Thursday no-damage admission would severely harm the Government's efforts to prosecute Assange, but what is clear is that he was perfectly willing to march into Meet the Press the following day and say things that he knew were false in order to depict the WikiLeaks diplomatic cable disclosures as harming U.S. national security. It's true that in the first clip, he was asked specifically about diplomatic cables, while the second interview may have encompassed all the releases, but in that second interview, he clearly claimed that the disclosures harmed relations with other countries: exactly the opposite of what he said the day before. Even his demeanor completely changed, from breezy, fun dismissiveness into serious, concerned leader talking about a True Threat.

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:22 PM
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1. Typical and disgusting.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:04 PM
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2. When it comes to Biden, this is what I believe - what he said first is how he feels...then someone
told him to shut up, and stay on message.

I have been a fan of Biden's for a loooong time, and see it happen all the time. I'll give you an example of clean coal. Biden was against it. then he became Obama's running mate & started saying he was for it.

Biden speaks for Obama, not for Biden.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:06 PM
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3. He said it has done no "substantive damage."
He knows it did damage, it's just not that bad.

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