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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:08 PM
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Two Dreams, One Dead ... and the "spectacular" public fall of McCain (Joe Klein)
Two Dreams, One Dead
Posted by Joe Klein

Saturday, December 18, 2010 at 8:13 pm

The Senate today passed the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," which is a good thing. It did not pass the "Dream Act," which is a cold, cold abomination. There is a relationship between the two. Repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" will allow homosexuals--who have fought honorably in every one of America's wars--to serve openly. Blocking the "Dream Act" means that young immigrants, who were brought here illegally by their parents, will not be able to gain citizenship by completing college or by serving in the military.

The repeal of "don't ask" will get most of the attention in the media. As it should, another step toward the perfection of our democracy. But let us focus for a moment on the "Dream Act," a vote of staggering cynicism and ugliness on the part of most Republicans and five morally-deficient Democrats. Two of the bills original sponsors, John McCain and Orrin Hatch, voted against the bill...and one wonders why, especially in McCain's case, given the fact that he recently won reelection and doesn't have to pretend to be a troglodyte anymore. McCain has professed himself all misty and honored in the past when he attended ceremonies in which green-card holders and other non-citizens achieved citizenship through military service. But, because of the anti-immigrant mania, this flagrantly cynical and cowardly politician, would deny similar status to young people who--through no fault of their own--were brought to this country as children, grew up as Americans and love the country enough to serve it. If the Dream Act were passed, we would have gained an estimated 65,000 valuable, patriotic and productive citizens--college graduates, military service-members--each year. We could use them.

McCain distinguished himself doubly this weekend, opposing the Dream Act and leading the opposition to "Don't Ask," despite the very public positions of his wife and daughter on the other side of the issue. I used to know a different John McCain, the guy who proposed comprehensive immigration reform with Ted Kennedy, the guy--a conservative, to be sure, but an honorable one--who refused to indulge in the hateful strictures of his party's extremists. His public fall has been spectacular, a consequence of politics--he "needed" to be reelected--and personal pique. He's a bitter man now, who can barely tolerate the fact that he lost to Barack Obama. But he lost for an obvious reason: his campaign proved him to be puerile and feckless, a politician who panicked when the heat was on during the financial collapse, a trigger-happy gambler who chose an incompetent for his vice president. He has made quite a show ever since of demonstrating his petulance and lack of grace.

What a guy.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/12/18/two-dreams-one-dead/#ixzz18WEP4t00
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:12 PM
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1. McCain was consumed by hatred
and shat by prejudice.

Behold all that remains of what once was a man.
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kaiden Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:35 PM
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3. Charles Dickens? Is that you?
Absolutely great post. Thanks for making my day -- and night!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:34 PM
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2. Sen John McCain RIP. nm
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:19 PM
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38. If only.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:50 PM
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4. McCain is such a mean and nasty man,
I wonder if anyone in the Senate actually likes him. I mean anyone other than Graham and Lieberman.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:22 PM
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28. Love your avatar, Go Green!
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:51 PM
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5. McCain is an absolute abomination.
The person who pretends to be one thing and shows himself to be entirely something else (a complete asshole) is more detestable than the asshole who has never pretended to be anything else. My contempt for this man and all he has wrought (namely Palin, and his hatred of gays and hispanics) these last few years knows no bounds.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:52 PM
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6. Yes, RIP, for sure. The history books will write about his insane objection to repealing...
DADT. He will not be remembered well.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:33 PM
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33. It s his blind, unreasoned dedication
to pettiness that correctly earns him the title of 'the Strom Thurmond' of DADT.


Someone needs to take him aside - Cindy - and encourage him to retire If he continues in this position, his decline will get uglier and uglier.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:59 PM
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7. McCain is just a nasty old man
This man has survived being a POW and cancer. He has wealth and from what I can see his health. I just do not understand why he would not want to help others considering his luck. People like McCain are hopeless.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:02 PM
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8. "He'll change any position and say anything to keep himself in the news. He's Paris Hilton
with a dick and wrinkles."

From the comments.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:10 PM
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9. I disagree. The DREAM Act is not dead. It's just the beginning
Who the hell things that the fastest growing minority which will outnumber whites in this country in our lifetimes is going to just fold? Get a clue! Why do you think the teabaggeratti are pissed?!
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:23 PM
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11. This.
:toast:
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:19 PM
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10. Yes, it is sad! McCain has lost all integrity. . .and maybe part of his ability to think also!
I am deeply sorry at the failure of the Dream Act... and I hope it can be rekindle somehow.

For John McCain, I think he is gone to lala land, and I hope he CAN"T be rekindle!

He is done. . .Actually he was done over 2 years ago. . .he just doesn't know it yet!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:13 AM
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12. the Beltway Media who tried to sell us a Maverich is having buyer's remorse??
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:49 AM
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13. He's A Poor Loser And He Thinks This Is His Way Of Getting Back At......
Obama for denying him the right to be President.

I thought in his concession speech that he said he would work with Obama. I guess that was a lie as well. He's a broken old curmudgeon and way past his time to serve in the senate. Unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while longer.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:17 PM
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32. +1,000,000,000!! You are spot on!!!! n/t
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:13 AM
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14. Thanks for the post! +1
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:40 AM
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15. " petulance and lack of grace "
bout says it all....:evilfrown:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:32 AM
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16. Sore Loserman. I don't understand why more people don't call him that.
As a matter of fact, I think ALL republi-CONS, for the past two years, should have been laminated with that label, encased in Lucite, put on lit-up sandwich boards and draped over all their shoulders. Because that's what they are and that's what they've been for the past two years. mcsame in particular. Just a bitter old putz who wants only to rain on the parade of the guy who beat him. This, mind you, from the guy who ran on the slogan "Country FIRST!" Maybe in reality it's "Country Nineteenth or Twentieth!" After "mcsame FIRST," that is.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:35 PM
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18. Amen...on all accounts !
:thumbsup:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:10 PM
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17. Do you think Dream Act will return in the next Congress & Dems will be forced to take the high road?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:51 PM
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19. RE: "forced to take the high road?" It seems they were on the high road with the DREAM Act. nt
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:56 PM
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20. The Man who would be King
Rudyard Kipling had his character well thought out.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:24 PM
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21. And I remember many here giving props to this...person.
Whatever honor resided in John McCain deserted him a long, long time ago.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:29 PM
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22. A little late on the draw, but I'll take it.
The myth of McCain's integrity has long been shown to be false.
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drlindaphd Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:39 PM
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23. McCain has been pathetic for a long time now
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:54 PM
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24. as a veteran of Iraq, he doesnt speak my language, thats for sure
everytime he tries that "i was a POW" bit these days, I want to kick the TV. He sold out his credibility as a vet a long time ago.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:17 PM
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26. .
Thank you.

:patriot:
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:08 PM
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25. Nothing new
McCain hasn't shown integrity since the 2008 when he started pandering to extremist. Any respect that had for this guy is long gone.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:21 PM
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27. McCain is a bitter, bile-filled shell of a man who just cannot abide
the fact that he was deprived of his 'birthright' to be President by 'that n----r.' He has and will continue to dedicate the ashes of his career to crapping on anything and everything that 'that one' champions, and will go down in history as one of the worst Senators in recent U.S. History.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:36 PM
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29. The bitterness does come from having lost to Obama. Compare his attitude to John Kerry's
after Kerry "lost" to the boy king under questionable vote-counting circumstances.

It's clear who had the character & the maturity to have been a great leader.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:28 PM
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35. +1 n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:06 PM
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30. Oldtimersheimers.
:(
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:09 PM
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31. Excellent analysis of a fallen man.
John McCain chose the low road because of his bitter hatred for his loss to Barack Obama. His true colors are on display for all to see.
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julian09 Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:14 PM
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37. Will McCAIN let his adopted daughter become citizen?
His hatred for Obama because of his loss in the election; will cause him, to cut his nose to spite his face.
When this lame duck session is over; he may have suffered three losses.
Defeated, demented and irrelevant sorry excuse for a senator whose reason to exist, is to obstruct the very issues he once
stood for, just to spite Obama.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:27 PM
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34. It is painful to watch this fall as someone who had respect for him and would have voted for him in
2000. Yes, even though I am a Democrat, I admired McCain back then. Now, I can barely stand to look at him and what he has allowed himself to become.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:02 PM
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36. Take the student part out, and leave the military part in
and you might see that version of the DREAM Act passed.
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