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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:57 PM Original message |
The furor over Michael Vick is a perfect example of why the USA has such a high prison population |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because we value only celebrity and not justice for those |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:07 PM Original message |
But we are talking about this as an issue facing society. It's a good thing. |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. His celebrity is what got him 23 months. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I personally am proud that most people care about the poor |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
64. I'm assuming you're a vegetarian, since you're so concerned |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. His crimes are what got him 23 months. Please... |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
55. It's not who he is , it's what he did. He tortured and killed innocent creatures for fun and profit. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
57. He should have gotten 23 YEARS |
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Top Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. some that murder,rape etc humans don't get the |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. You're right, he should have gotten 5 years, which wasthe maximum allowable sentence. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions in your post about what |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I"m sure that if you have knowledge of those reforms... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I'll give you two examples of efforts that have been ongoing for decades now... |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. The thing is, it's all academic. To what end are people up in arms? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. People don't want justice, redemption, or rehabilitation,. They want revenge. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. .No... Most people believe in redemption... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Deleted message |
hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I did not post anything about "ripping apart Vick's face" |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Wary is good, but I wouldn't use "wary" to describe the "Get a rope" response I'm seeing here today. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. +1...nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. Deleted message |
hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Those that disagree with you are not "haters" |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. The same applies to you. All day long there have been threads about Obama and Vick. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I have not done so to you... at all |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. If my earlier post doesn't apply to you, then don't worry about it. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I didn't see that post but would surely have appreciated a diversion |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. What's your point? |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. The US govt and American citizens have a draconian mentality when it comes to crime and punishment |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Ufortunately, the President chose exactly the wrong person to make his point |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. S owe as a society should embrace killers and torturers and other sadists with open arms? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. Best post yet on the topic. |
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benddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. good explanation |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. "...American citizens who wish to see their neighbors behind bars." |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'm all for second chances |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. and this is different from fundies |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
44. Oh YOU are willing |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. Ridiculous |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. The content of this post is simply unbelievable. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. You make it sound like Lurie acted out of altruism |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. astounding that more people don't get that.. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. You're wrong about the 2 points you've made in this comment. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Just wondering how many people eviscerating Vick eat meat, eggs or dairy products? |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Well said. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. At the time he hired Vick he had 2 quarterbacks considered to be better players. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Actually, head coach Andy Reid lobbied hard for hiring Vick, because Reid's son has been in trouble |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Good post...nt |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
65. That clears up the total narriative, linky. Vick shouldn't have been hired, but Reid... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. So it would be in any case |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
22. "people like Michael Vick that deserve a second chance" |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Good post. |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. +1 |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. +1 |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. In Vick's case I respectfully disagree. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
34. Absolutely right... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. +1...nt |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
36. The US has a high prison population because people on the internet talk shit about Vick? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
42. A better example of high prison population is all the people locked away for marijuana |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
43. +1000.....only logical post I have seen! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
45. I think someone packing a loaded gun in his sweat pants, with no holster, is a threat to society |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Esspecially in a bar |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
49. +1 million |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Well then, let's release OJ and Charlie Manson too! |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. jeff lurie did not give an ex-con a second chance.. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
56. So who do we give a second chance to next? Charlie Manson? Terry Nichols? Eric Rudolph? |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
60. A moment of reflective perspective from a consistent Obama critic |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Wishing I could rec your post. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
66. Fight a dog to it's death and get a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. |
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