WH will announce this month the creation of President Obama’s re-election campaign

[impik]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791904576076150469705650.html?mod=WSJEUROPE_hpp_MIDDLEThirdNews

[bluestateguy]

1. I am ready to work, to donate and fight

A great man. A great president.

Just tell me where to go and what to do.

[lamp_shade]

2. I'm getting in line right behind you.

[impik]

5. I see that "Democrats" are alreay unrec' this

[lamp_shade]

6. You knew that when you posted this, impik, but I admire you for posting it anyway.

I'm fired up and ready to go.

[tallahasseedem]

15. I'll be right behind you!

:)

[young but wise]

8. +1

[Tesha]

3. Ahh -- soon he'll be loving the Left again!

This time though, we'll know how he (and his friends) really
feel about us.

Tesha

[impik]

4. Good. Because he knows how you feel about him for years now. Edwards send his love, BTW

[jefferson_dem]

7. And we'll know what some feel about electing a Democratic president.

It will be illuminating for sure.

[Tesha]

9. You forgot the quotes around "Democratic". (NT)

[geek tragedy]

10. Scare quotes are inappropriate since Barack Obama

is a Democrat according to everyone who lives in objective reality. People who insist he's not a Democrat have much in common with those who say he's not an American.

[jefferson_dem]

11. If I used "Democratic" as a descriptor for some DU posters, then perhaps quotation marks would

have been appropriate.

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[Brickbat]

12. Is this part of his chess game?

Must be.

[tallahasseedem]

14. Then I will start gearing up...

to help him get re-elected!

I love my Prez...

[Tesha]

16. It's unclear to me where *ANY* of you think his win is going to come from.

Here in New Hampshire, he won in 2008 and the entire
state government turned Blue for the first time in ages
(something like a century).

But in 2010, he was so hated here that not only did we
lose both Congressional seats and an open Senate seat,
we also lost the State House and State Senate by over
75%. That's right -- a Democratic majority became a
*VETO-PROOF* Republican majority in just two years!
A three-to-two Democratic majority on the Executive
Council (~our Lt. Governors) was lost to become a
*UNANIMOUS* Republican majority. The only office we
held on to was the Governor's chair and he's a "Democrat"
just like so many other DLC/Blue Dog "Democrats". From
Federal offices right down to dog catcher, the Republicans
completely kicked our asses.*

Obama *IS NOT* going to win NH in 2012. If the heavens
opened up and Dog-Almighty said in a voice like thunder
"Vote for Obama!", he'd still lose NH. And I'm sure
that this change is just as true in other "2008 Obama"
states.

So from what states, *EXACTLY*, are you going to assemble
enough Electoral votes to win again? Don't forget that by
2012, re-apportionment may have removed quite a few
Democratic-leaning electors from the equation.

Tesha


* And yes, even though we dislike Obama and are sorely
disappointed by his performance, we were out there
working our hearts out for Annie Kuster, our CD-2
Congressional candidate, Paul Hodes, our former
CD-2 Congressman and then Senate candidate, and
our State House Reps, State Senator, and Executive
Councilor. They all lost, of course, because in just two
years, the NH electorate has come to despise Obama
and was hugely disappointed in the complete inability
of the Federal Democrats to get done *ANYTHING OF
ANY SUBSTANCE*.

[geek tragedy]

20. Do you have any 2012 polls from NH to provide? nt

[namahage]

23. Maybe not from 2012, but here's one from late December.

http://www.miscellanyblue.com/post/2591074037/obama-nh-job-approval-mirrors-national-rise

In the latest New Hampshire Poll from American Research Group (ARG), 47% of Granite State adults say they approve of the way President Obama is handling his job as president. 36% say they disapprove and 18% are undecided. This marks a dramatic swing from the last survey in September, when 34% expressed approval and 55% disapproved.

But I fully expect that this poll will be ignored in favor of anecdotal evidence from "progressives I've talked to."

[Uzybone]

26. +1

[mkultra]

55. Hopefully that makes it a little more clear

[BklnDem75]

22. Who's going to beat him? Palin?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/poll-obama-way-ahead-in-hypothetical-2012-nh-primary.php

Obama's ahead of Dean in NH. Despite your beliefs, local elections during the midterms is not the same as Presidential elections.

[Tesha]

24. We normally don't lose the midterms by *THREE TO ONE*.

That's how bad it was here in New Hampshire back in November.

And I'll admit I'm susceptible to persuasion by polls, and it's
good that there's a poll that shows Obama isn't as despised
as he was a couple of months ago, but I have to tell you that
there are far more anti-Obama bumper stickers in New Hampshire
than there were ever anti-Bush bumper stickers. The "01/20/2013 --
Obama's last day!" stickers are as common as autumn leaves around
here.

So answer my question: what states are going to provide the
Electoral votes to re-elect Obama? And again, I'll remind you
about re-apportionment shifting the Electoral balance.

Tesha

[BklnDem75]

29. Most likely the same states, if not more

How? The same way he did last time. Inspiring rallies and pointing out the clear differences between himself and his opponent. Considering his approval rating, perhaps you're misreading the fact that people like Obama but really hates Congress.

[Tesha]

35. But this time:

o The Left isn't behind him anymore, certainly not with the
willingness to do the grunt work of the campaign that we
all did in 2008 (and 2006 and 2004 and...)

o The Corporations aren't behind him anymore; this cycle,
they'll be spending big time to elect the Republicans just
like they did in 2010. There's no percentage in electing
Democrats when Republicans deliver better.

o The Electoral map will have shifted in favor of the
Republicans by at least a few more votes.

o The Unions won't be nearly as enthusiastic this time.

o The Gays won't be nearly as enthusiastic this time,
although finally delivering on DADT was a help. Now
there's just DOMA, ENDA, and several other items...

o The Media isn't enthralled by him any more. We've
already elected our first Black President do there's
no story there any more.

o And finally, and most important of all, it's obvious to
all that Obama screws his supporters, the folks who
worked hard to elect him in 2008. What on Earth makes
you think people will trust him again?

Tesha

[BklnDem75]

39. The left you're talking about don't do grunt work

In reality, the base are the ones who knows what's really at stake and don't give up. You keep mentioning the electoral map like President Obama won the last election by a couple of votes. It won't make a difference. You presume to speak for A LOT of groups you're not a part of. Don't. It's insulting. Last I checked, the Media was trying to tie Obama to Wright/Ayers. Is that your version of enthralled? Really? And to your last point, no, it's just you and a few others. The majority has his back.

[Tesha]

41. That's pretty funny given that I *KNOW* exactly who has done...

..."the grunt work" in the last several election cycles here in NH.
Here's a clue: It *AIN'T* the DLC-lovers in our state party. They
tend to sit on their asses and let us do the work "stay above
the fray" in the run-up to election day.

Tesha

[BklnDem75]

42. How would you know?

Is there a special DLC name tag in the election office you apparently work in?

[Tesha]

44. We're a little state; everybody knows everybody else.

Do you really think we don't know who's politically aligned
where and whether or not they *WORKED* on the Coordinated
Campaign?

Tesha

[BklnDem75]

46. Let me get this straight...

Are you claiming to know the political leanings of over 1 million people?

[Tesha]

47. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

It's either that or, in the famous words of Monty Python,
you've just "come here for an argument".

In either case, you're wasting my time and I'm done
with you. After the 2012 election, we'll know which of
us was right and which was wrong.

Tesha

[BklnDem75]

48. Have fun at the pity party

You're predicting a Republican victory 2 years before an election on a forum that's suppose to support Dems and you say I'm here for an argument?

[impik]

43. He'll win with a bigger margin than 2008

[Hippo_Tron]

53. Bumper stickers are indicative of the number of bumper stickers and nothing more

They're an illusion of support.

[Tesha]

27. The *PRIMARY* isn't the problem; he'll win that and probably easily.

It's the General Election in which he'll lose NH by historic margins.

Tesha

[BklnDem75]

28. Too many assumptions there

You're making this assumption without knowing who the GOP nominee is. You're assuming the turnaround of the past two years won't happen in the next two years with Pukes in a more active role. You're also making the mistake of blaming every bad thing that happened on Obama, which just isn't dealing with reality at all. Basically, your stance is every and any GOP nominee is a lock in NH. Is that correct?

[Tesha]

37. Every GOP nominee *IS* a lock in NH.

The candidates they ran in 2008 in were Bozos and retreads,
but they all got elected. They *ALL* got elected.

And if the economy turns around, do you really think Democrats
will get (or even take?) any of the credit? The media will ensure
that all the credit goes to the Republicans.

The Democrats blew it and the 2010 election sealed their fate:
checkmate (speaking in terms of political chess); get used to it.

Tesha

[BklnDem75]

40. Sounds like wishful thinking

You're entitled to your opinion I suppose. Good luck with your candidate.

[BlueIris]

30. Good luck. Asking people to crunch the numbers on this potential "win"

is like asking Sarah Palin to learn history. Most I've encountered (online and off) would rather base their beliefs on anecdotal non-evidence and supposition (the "who would challenge him?" crap.)

They're in for a nasty shock.

[BklnDem75]

31. LOL!!!

So do you have proof that Obama is going to lose NH two years from now to a yet to be determined GOP candidate? Do tell!

[namahage]

32. How is basing your opinion on "most I've encountered (online and off)"

NOT basing beliefs on anecdotal non-evidence and supposition?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

36. This coming from the person who keeps saying Obama won't run in 2012?

:rofl:

[Synicus Maximus]

38. It will be him or a Republican. Is there a choice?

[Tesha]

45. In NH, it will be the Republican. (NT)

[Arkana]

50. And yet PPP has shown that Obama eats the lunch of ALL the 2010 GOP contenders

in New Hampshire.

Midterm turnout is not a good way to determine how a candidate will do.

[Clio the Leo]

17. Fired Up! Ready to go again! nt

[AtomicKitten]

18. +1

http://images9.cpcache.com/product/vote+obama+2012-re-elect+obama+biden-re-elect+obama+2012/326220559v3_225x225_Front.jpg

[rug]

19. I can't wait until they announce the new slogan.

[geek tragedy]

21. I can hardly wait for the 1000 sarcastic posts at DU mocking it

And by "can hardly wait for" I mean "dread."

[Tesha]

25. What's it going to be?

"Change: this time we *REALLY* mean it!"

(There! Your first sarcastic post!)

Tesha

[jonnyblitz]

49. "the lesser evil we can believe in!1" nt

[Top Cat]

33. I'm ready to work and fight to get the POTUS re-elected

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[craigmatic]

51. When do presidents traditionally announce that they're running again?

[Arkana]

52. My guess is he'll do it from the same place he announced the first time--Illinois.

[craigmatic]

54. I asked when not where. They're going to use Chicago as a base for the campaign.