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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:14 PM
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The RW stepped in it and they know Palin is a screw up
Ailes Tells Fox Anchors to ‘Tone It Down’

Roger Ailes, the president of Fox News, on Monday embraced the idea of a more civil public discourse in the wake of the shootings in Arizona.

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Chris Christie: Sarah Palin needs to go unscripted

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will “never be president” if she avoids unscripted, spontaneous interactions with reporters and the public.

“You have to look at it and see what are they like when they’re tested, what are they like when they’re not scripted, what are they like when they’re pushed,” Christie told The New York Times. “And I would contend to you that if Governor Palin never does any of those things she’ll never be president, because people in America won’t countenance that. They just won’t.”

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Tim Pawlenty Criticizes Sarah Palin's Crosshairs

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty recently criticized Sarah Palin and her vilified campaign use of crosshair imagery to target legislators for unseating, saying he "wouldn't have done it."

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“Blood Libel” (National Review)

I should have said this a few days ago, when my friend Glenn Reynolds introduced the term to this debate. But I think that the use of this particular term in this context isn’t ideal. Historically, the term is almost invariably used to describe anti-Semitic myths about how Jews use blood — usually from children — in their rituals. I agree entirely with Glenn’s, and now Palin’s, larger point. But I’m not sure either of them intended to redefine the phrase, or that they should have.


Barack Obama takes opportunity Sarah Palin missed

At sunrise in the East on Wednesday, Sarah Palin demonstrated that she has little interest — or capacity — in moving beyond her brand of grievance-based politics. And at sundown in the West, Barack Obama reminded even his critics of his ability to rally disparate Americans around a message of reconciliation.

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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:56 PM
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1. Sarah Palin unscripted = (Orly Taitz / Christine McDonnel) x Alan Keyes. nt
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:14 PM
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2. Can you explain that, I don't "get" math. (eom)
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MaeScott Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:29 PM
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3. Still equals a big fat zero. nt
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 10:32 PM
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5. Worse
Divide by zero. This is how universes die.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:46 AM
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10. Are you assuming O'Donnell is a zero value, rather than a negative?
:evilgrin:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 12:42 AM
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8. the sum of the squares of two sides of a triangle equals the hippopotamus squared.
Or something like that.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 07:48 AM
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12. Exactly - in another Christie comment
he spoke of the Republicans needing someone who had made government smaller and made it work - implying that the nominee should be a Governor. This was NOT said specifically in respect to Palin - and it describes how he wants to see himself - rather than as someone who has already cost the state a huge amount of federal money because of ideology and incompetence. However, if the Republicans want the election to be a referendum on the core difference in the parties, someone like Christie described would make sense, but they need one with a likable personality which should eliminate Christie.

It does show the disadvantage that Palin will have if she does run. Her slightly more than half term as governor - where part of the time she was running for VP and in the other part she was having the state PAY her to live in Wassilla because she was away from Juneau - a work from home governor.

Even if she were not far beyond the pale in her RW ugly rhetoric, that alone would make her a poor candidate. In reality, behind the RW rhetoric and what many see as good looks, there is nothing there.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:57 PM
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4. "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Angriness"
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 10:55 PM
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6. She is the party leader now and controls the base of the republican party. nt
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 11:27 PM
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7. Well the populist base...
Edited on Thu Jan-13-11 11:34 PM by jimlup
But don't delude yourself. The republican party has a much darker and intelligent side that doesn't want Palin anywhere near the nomination. They are our real enemy's not Sarah (can't get her points out without slandering someone) Palin. She's too stupid to go anywhere near consideration for the president and the grown-up wing of the republican party understands this better than many of us here. They are actually still reeling somewhat that she got as close as she did. I'm sure John McCain is persona non grata in republican inner circles as a result of his massive blunder in tapping her.

As far as I can tell, she is the gift that just keeps on giving. Thanks John, really, we couldn't have planned it better! I guess the only actual danger is that a populist movement develops which the elite wing of the Republican party can't control. Then all hell breaks loose but it might actually be an interesting remix of the American political system. A massive populist right wing movement lead by a blithering idiot. Somehow, I just don't think it will fly. We can hope. If she were to start to threaten the Republican establishment, it might ultimately be the full downfall of this relic of a once great but now hopelessly flawed political party.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 08:08 AM
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13. I agree with you that the Republican PTB will not let Palin win the nomination
I think though that THEY were the ones that put her on that ticket - thinking her a controllable female George Bush. At the time of the selection, McCain was relatively certain to lose. This was a year where, if things went as expected the Democrats were very favored to win. I think the PTB thought that in addition to latent (or not so latent) racism, this would bring in relatively non-political women disappointed that they would not get the first female President could be brought to vote for McCain/Palin. (Even surrogates pointing out that it was insulting to Clinton and that Palin and she agreed on very few things would not impact women who were mostly not political. ) Tanks to the media, the initial reaction to her being on the ticket was to help McCain. What they didn't count on was that she was uncontrollable and really did "go rogue", becoming a liability in areas McCain needed to win.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 09:38 AM
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15. GOP internal struggle aside
"The republican party has a much darker and intelligent side that doesn't want Palin anywhere near the nomination."

...Palin is being pushed by an equally dark force. Same agenda, they just disagree on the best way to achieve it.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 12:47 AM
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9. This is very dangerous thinking. The TeaParty is a diversion.
Dont think the Republican party doesnt have brains. Sarah Palin and the TeaParty have done their job just like Hitler's Brown Shirts. Now their usefulness is over and they will be thrown under the Hummer.

Watch for the "main stream" Republican Party to make a last minute surge and reclaim the party. Jeb Bush for president.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 08:47 AM
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14. We disagree on what makes up the "main stream" republican party. I see them as
those who went to DC with Glenn Beck, the fundamentalists, the right wing evangelicals, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, intolerant, anti-government voters, anti-regulation voters. That covers nearly the entire republican party.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 03:54 PM
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18. You give way too little respect for Karl Rove and the Bush Family.
Most of the people you named will welcome a legitimate party leader. Besides the Republicans would never elect a female for president esp an uppity one.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 02:52 AM
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11. well the way I see it is the little freak got out of the cage, and all her
helpers are shocked that she had that long of a leash run.

She will be guided back to her cage.

Don't count her out of the game. It would be stupid to do so, as stupidity is our religion.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 11:41 AM
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16. She has flunked every test on the national scene for the last two years
Edited on Fri Jan-14-11 11:41 AM by WI_DEM
How anybody could take her seriously is beyond me.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 12:02 PM
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17. It's the media
They made Bush and now Palin.

In 2004, when Bush Jr's AWOL was being debated, the media aired a documentary of his father's military service over and over. It was a subliminal "like father, like son."

In fact, the media made "Maverick" John McCain. The thing that has most changed about McCain is his media cover. Sure, he's more bitter, but he was always a conservative, never a moderate.




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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 04:11 PM
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19. they've known since the couric interview
why they keep propping this jackass up as the great white hope is beyond me

i kind of enjoy watching them contort themselves into knots defending her tho

but i'd rather she just fade away like dukakis
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 04:11 PM
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20. I love the dance they're doing - they WANT to criticize, in case
she decides to run, but they're afraid they'll lose her endorsement if she doesn't run, and decides to hold a grudge!
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