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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:12 AM
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Gingrich and Frum criticize Palin

Gingrich: Palin Has To ‘Be More Careful’ And ‘Think Through What She’s Saying’

Days after the Tucson shootings, Sarah Palin launched a web-video campaign to counter what she called “blood libel” against her by the media and supposed opponents who had linked her famous cross-hairs graphic and other right-wing rhetoric to violence. Many Jewish leaders — and even some of Palin’s conservative colleagues — criticized the former governor’s use of “blood libel” because of the term’s anti-Semitic undertones.

But last night on Fox News, Palin refused to apologize and remained defiant. “I don’t know how the heck they would know if whether I did or didn’t know the term ‘blood libel,’ nobody has ever asked me,” she said, adding, “And ‘blood libel’ obviously means being falsely accused of having blood on your hands.” She also dismissed criticism from Jewish groups. “I think the critics, again, were using anything that they could gather out of that statement.”

Today on ABC’s Good Morning America, host George Stephanopoulos noted that Palin’s favorability is at an all-time low according to a new USA Today/Gallup poll out this morning. He asked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich how she can turn it around. While Gingrich was careful to give her faint praise, Gingrich advised Palin to be more aware of what she says:

GINGRICH: I think that she’s got to slow down and be more careful and think through what she’s saying and how’s she’s saying it. There’s no question that she has become more controversial. But she is still a phenomenon. I don’t know anybody else in American politics who can put something on twitter or put something on Facebook and automatically have it become a national story. So she remains a very formidable person in her own right.

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David Frum Reacts To Hannity's Palin Interview: "She Should Stop Talking Now"

Perhaps anticipating that the media would begin ripping Sarah Palin's interview with Sean Hannity earlier tonight underestimated the speed of the news cycle. Less than an hour later and a network away, Palin's fellow conservative David Frum responded to her comments with a good-natured plea for her to just "stop talking now."

On MSNBC's The Last Word, Lawrence O'Donnell noted that he would have wanted to hear Palin explain the difficulty of finding an appropriate timing to respond to the attacks on her, introducing the review of her performance on Hannity without deeply analyzing any particular part of it. Frum didn't explain what he would have wanted to see, but he made it clear that, whatever it was, it was not yet another media appearance about the same topic.

"She should stop talking now," he put it, rather curtly, though the extended explanation of why seemed more favorable to her than this may indicate. His argument appeared not to be that she was incapable of speaking eloquently (though that implication was certainly present throughout this discussion), but that meta-responding to a response she already gave- the video statement she released days after the massacre- would only dig her deeper into her current political hole. "There is no one left in America that would blame her" for Tucson, he argued, and so the defense seemed far too vocal.

"What should have happened was that one video released should have been the end of it," he suggested instead, noting that this last interview was a result of Palin being "all too aware" of the attacks on her and, as such, "very shaken." Even though that first video was a "disaster" and "failure," according to Frum, "you have to live with the consequences and just cease."

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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:38 AM
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1. She needs to
keep yammering. She's digging a hole with her stupid mouth. Let her keep it up.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:50 AM
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2. No, she needs to stop for the next 18 months
... get the nomination, then let all the crazy come out at once.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 06:07 PM
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3. Oh dear. Mama Grizzly doesn't like it when her slaves get ideas
above their station.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 06:17 PM
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4. Joe Scarborough to right wing: Stop whining about shooting!

Moving past right-wing rhetoric

By JOE SCARBOROUGH

We get it, Sarah Palin. You’re not morally culpable for the tragic shooting in Tucson, Ariz. All of us around the “Morning Joe” table agree, even if we were stunned that you would whine about yourself on Facebook as a shattered family prepared to bury their 9-year-old girl.

The same goes for you, Glenn Beck. You’ve attacked your political opponents with words designed to inspire hatred and mind-bending conspiracy theories from fans. Calling the president a racist, Marxist and fascist may be reprehensible, but it did not lead a mentally disturbed man to take a Glock to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’s “Congress on Your Corner” event.

Good on ya, buddy. You weren’t personally responsible for the slaughter at the Safeway. Maybe you can put it on a poster at the next “Talkers” convention.

But before you and the pack of right-wing polemicists who make big bucks spewing rage on a daily basis congratulate yourselves for not being responsible for Jared Lee Loughner’s rampage, I recommend taking a deep breath. Just because the dots between violent rhetoric and violent actions don’t connect in this case doesn’t mean you can afford to ignore the possibility — or, as many fear, the inevitability — that someone else will soon draw the line between them.

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Greg Sargent: Joe Scarborough to right wing: Stop whining about shooting!

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Again, it's wrong to blame anyone for the shooting. But ask yourself this. How many figures on the right have been willing to engage in any way on the broader question of whether it's at least possible that our current climate could lead to future violence? How many conservatives have been willing to discuss the topic at all?

I get that right-wingers have been in a defensive crouch since the massacre -- in some ways understandably so, because some on the left did pin blame for the shootings on them. But the argument from many liberals has been far more nuanced than that. Many of them simply insisted that the shooting is a reminder that we need to have a broader conversation about the relationship between political culture and political violence, about the excesses of our current climate, and about who is primarly to blame for those excesses.

Some right-wingers -- perhaps in order to avoid the topic completely -- dismissed even the more nuanced response from liberals as nothing but a cheap political trick, as thinly-disguised blame for the murders. But that was pure B.S. -- this was an entirely legitimate line of inquiry from the outset. And it's nice to hear a right-leaning commentator in good Beltway standing step up and say so.


Suddenly, conservatives rush to criticize Palin.



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