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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:52 AM
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"Apparently it's now 'centrist' to call for job creation and national renewal"
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 11:52 AM by ProSense
Greg Sargent

Apparently it's now "centrist" to call for job creation and national renewal, as if these are things independents and middle-of-the-road voters want more than everyone else does.

From the NYT article"

<...>

Mr. Obama is unlikely, they said, to embrace the recommendations of a bipartisan majority on the debt-reduction commission he created, which proposed slashing projected annual deficits through 2020 with deep cuts in domestic and military spending, changes to Social Security and Medicare, and an overhaul of the individual and corporate tax codes to simplify them and to raise additional revenues.

<...>

The President has already announced military spending cuts.



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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:59 AM
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1. Then the issue is information systems.
Since that is not what is in the posts and the news. Instead there is a repeating of setting of a military citizen class above the worker citizen class.

An article on bank fraud against soldiers families.

A post about helping soldiers families.

Many articles about supporting the military, what about supporting the citizens, the military should need no support, or no 'hyping' at all, if a war is needed the citizens would volunteer for no pay, or in a draft. Not for money or prestige, only the desire for war without need creates a need for elevating the soldier.

Make the soldier the dredge, then there will only be wars when people feel they are absolutely needed. The rewards should be for peace and better societal results for more people, not for who can grift the most.


And I am still due beer and travel money.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:17 PM
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3. Too many categories
"Instead there is a repeating of setting of a military citizen class above the worker citizen class."

American families who are struggling under the weight of bad policies and greed need support.

There should be no pitting military families against civiilian families, federal workers against the private work force, etc.

Bad policies and corporate greed impact low-imcome and middle-class families equally, regardless of who employs them.



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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:32 PM
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5. I guess I am making this point.
The military service members are not worse of coarse, and there are many traits of military service that are better for many parts of society.

But if the military is elevated, then people will join for personal status, not for the intent of defense for some reason. The idea of elevating the military is to allow for unpopular wars.

There should be no need to hype the military, when needed they should sign up by that need. Maybe I think about such things more then most people, but the concept of the hype seems to create people to fight in wars they don't think are best ideas. Or why wouldn't they sign up without the status.

It is not a comment about soldiers, but about the mechanism of elevating war culture.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:13 PM
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2. Thank god they're not seen as "liberal"
Otherwise the President and all the Serious Sensible People would have to treat them like flaming turds.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:18 PM
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4. Does that make sense? n/t
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 03:55 AM
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6. I like the WW2 vet's attitudes basically, I'm just a regular Joe, like bakers and
butchers and farmers
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