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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:06 AM
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Paul Ryan was shifting the meme- Social Security is now 'Welfare'
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 02:08 AM by JCMach1
...This is a future in which we will transform our social safety net into a hammock, which lulls able-bodied people into lives of complacency and dependency... http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/full-text-of-paul-ryans-response-to-the-state-of-the-union.php


Disgusting... completely and utterly!

These were not throw-away lines. It's what he believes.

Seriously, when are people going to wake-up about these idiots?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:08 AM
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1. Dems better refute that.
ALL of them. Loudly, immediately, and repeatedly.

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:14 AM
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2. I have heard this before, a general conflation of SSI with "welfare" programs
and other entitlements. I would like to know what the social class of the people who are saying these things. They are NOT describing the country I know and seem to be promoting the cause of SOME OTHER COUNTRY (one in their own imaginings) to the point of TREASON!!!! These are class and national enemies and dangerous to our democracy.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:38 AM
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8. *shrug* What do you call a redistributive program?
I realize "welfare" is politically a poisonous word, but there it is.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:56 AM
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10. People who work *for* the SSA told my *mom* she was on *welfare*.
I wish she got that motherfucker fired. The gall of someone working *for* the Social Security Administration telling one of the citizens entitled to SSS (Supplemental; she hardly worked her whole life, her husband was the breadwinner, she was the stay at home mom) they were getting welfare.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:17 AM
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3. They no longer even try to hide their
Bullshit
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:31 AM
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4. Well, Eddie Munster, retired people have earned the right to that hammock.
:dunce:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:41 AM
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5. As have all of us who have been paying our whole lives to buy the thing
:)
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:32 PM
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13. Absolutely! Last I heard, when someone robs a bank full of savings accounts
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 06:36 PM by pacalo
it's against the law. In this Twilight Zone we're in, however, that's a little iffy.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:05 AM
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6. It is as if the republicants want the elderly to be homeless and pout begging
for money on the streets with their Social Security and Medicare changes. Even if you agree with privatizing both of them, what will become of the millions that didn't put money away when it comes time fore their retirement? Out on the streets? Or, more likely, the governemnt having to step in and bail them all out.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:16 AM
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7. This is a WEDGE the RepubliCons will hammer again and again...to divide
...the generations. "Why are you young folks paying to keep alive all those creaky leaky Baby Boomers?"

Divide and conquer...this is another wedge the Republicons will increasingly use to try and break up America.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:46 AM
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9. Gene Robinson said something about legislation passing yesterday
That gave Ryan total control over the House budget. No one has a say in how he spends it. Now that's scary.

Democrats are seizing on a vote scheduled Tuesday that will give Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee, unilateral power to set the House-approved federal spending totals for fiscal 2011.

One Democratic aide characterized Ryan’s power to finalize the House budget numbers later this year as giving him “unprecedented power to carry out” cuts to Social Security and Medicare.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/139869-budget-ax-man-ryan-is-dems-new-villain
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:03 AM
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11. But he's got these really cool Coupons:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:12 AM
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12. Ryan: 'Speaking candidly...' My ass! R's wouldn't acknowledge the truth if it bit them in the ass!
Republicans and their corporate benefactors abhor increased regulation and oversight--including, not only the big Wall Street banks we so recently bailed out, Big Energy--exemplified by the Koch Brothers, and, of course, the Health Insurance industry--who want the mandate of 'Obamacare,' but not the consumer protections, and definitely not a mandated medical loss ratio eating into their profits. What the health insurance companies want is to be able to sell their catastrophic policies 'across state lines' with little or no regulation--but very big profits. All these corporate special interests donated heavily to Republicans for the mid-term elections and are expecting more than 'good government' in return.

The Republicans truly have no shame and very little worry they will be called out by the media for their lies.
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