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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:21 PM
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High Speed Rail: IMHO, TSA will search passengers the same way as the airports
You betcha.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:50 PM
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1. No reason to
If a terrorist wants to blow up a train, they can do it without getting on the train. Unlike aircraft, the train travels on the ground across unprotected land.

Trains can't be hijacked and flown into building either. Yes I remember the movie Silver Streak.

Europe has no security checks getting on trains. There is no security getting on any train in the US or Subways.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:53 PM
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2. Really? 'cos I've seen the Feds come into a carriage and remove somone
Maybe it's not so noticeable, but they're there. Good point about blowing up the tracks, but the inspections won't be for bombs, but for aerosolized weapons and biohazards. In any case, they will be one threat away from having the same treatment as airplanes.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 07:20 AM
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8. But no security check points like you do with air travel
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 07:20 AM by liberal N proud
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 07:11 PM
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4. Europe most certainly does have security checks to get on trains
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 07:14 PM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
Granted Eurostar can't draw on the same pool of authoritarian human garbage the TSA recruits from but yes, most European high-speed rail routes have airport style security. And the TSA will pop up anywhere in the US they feel like - I encountered them on the San Diego trolley.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 07:19 AM
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7. I rode the TGV last year and did not have to submit to security check
Left Paris for Geneva without one check of my bags.

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 05:28 PM
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9. Exactly... I never once had to do that on European railways...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 05:28 PM by JCMach1
Even in the UK directly after the Tube attacks.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 07:25 PM
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5. Fighting terrorists by micro-managing security is dumb
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 07:27 PM by golfguru
In a large country such as ours with freedom of movement and commerce,
it is plain stupid to spend Billions on TSA type security. The terrorists
can blow up bridges during rush hour, shopping malls, large hotels, million
miles of railroad tracks, etc. anytime.

SO how many Billions do we need to take from social programs to do security?
Obviously it is the wrong method, expensive method and just what the terrorists
want us to bleed our resources on.

There is only one method which is best to fight terrorism. It is also the
cheapest. We have access to this method, while most European countries do not.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:52 PM
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10. Random bag checks have started at randomly selected DC Metro subway
entrances.

Whether the situation is permanent or not, it has been done.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 07:08 PM
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3. We already have high speed trains
On the east coast. Called Acela. I'm not aware people get screened to get on that.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 07:27 PM
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6. Here what they do is they pick one station at a time to be secure.
So, if you're carrying drugs or a bomb, you need to get on the train at a different station to avoid having your bag searched.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:03 PM
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11. I might be the only one...but I'm not against having my items searched.
It's a hassle..yes, but shit. I'd like to live to see another flight. There are dangers a lot. People are taking knives and guns on planes. When they do...well..I'd like to know why.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:03 PM
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12. Then why isn't that happening with the high speed rail that WE ALL READY HAVE.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:20 AM
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14. The Security Industry will grow exponentially and we'll all have jobs
patting each other down.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 01:07 AM
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15. It's not about security, it's about economics
It's about selling scanners, and giving more jobs to security goons.

So yes, I expect that they will be there soon enough.

Besides, what better way to ensure that rail travel doesn't catch on?
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