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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:04 PM
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Obama should have thrown his support behind reform
"It's time for the dictator to leave." That's what he should have said.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:07 PM
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1. I agree.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:10 PM
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2. reform in Egypt...or in the USA? nt
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:22 PM
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6. That's a problem
I wonder if the Egyptians realize that if they get what they want, they'll be slaves of the corporations and the banks?
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:12 PM
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3. To what "Dictator"
should he have said this to?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:18 PM
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4. simple minded
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:44 PM
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7. Interesting.
Wonder if people will call for invasion soon.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 10:16 AM
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17. K&R X 1000. That's exactly the type of superficial sloganeering
that has gotten us into such deep shit around the world.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 11:12 AM
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18. the neocons are with Obama and Mubarak
when they talk about supporting democracy, it's just talk.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:19 PM
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19. "The neocons are with Obama..." and thats where you lose the argument.
The neocons despise Obama. His moves on Afghanistan earned him no friends among them.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:20 PM
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8. Sometimes a dictator gets replaced...
by another dictator. Who has the power right now? Mubarek? Not really. The people? They have the attention but no real physical power. The military? Possibly. We might just see a military dictator take over. Would that be better or worse? Who knows. If I were Obama I would walk the careful line as well.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:45 PM
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9. Start with the facts that everyone knows
Mubarrak is a dictator and run a very repressive regime. What can the US do to encourage a change to a democratic system? Propping up Mubarrak is not the answer. Encourage change, threaten to cut off the money if he doesn't agree to democratic changes, etc. There are all kinds of steps the US could take to promote democratic change. But standing behind the current regime is not one of them. The US has a special obligation to help the Egyptian people, since it has been the major backer of this repressive regime.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:51 PM
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12. And Obama has stated he will cut off aid if Mubarek lets the army there turn violent.
But I honestly think the people there don't want us to interfere at all. Personally I do agree that for 15 or so years, the United States propped up Mubarek for "stability" reasons. But obviously the people have had enough. Let them dictate their own future. Also, we really need to get out of this foreign aid crap. Most of it is a complete waste.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 10:29 PM
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14. Walk the careful line? But thats so Un-Bush like. These people want Obama to be neocon chest beater.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:46 PM
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10. Wars start when other leaders think their words are so important.
He should keep his mouth shut and not say anything. Give a general airy statement and let it go until this thing plays itself out. I don't want my nation getting involved in world drama when we need a bit of reform for many things in our own neck of the woods.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:48 PM
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11. Bush-is that you? n/t
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 10:29 PM
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13. I'm not a fan of Sharia.
Not all "reform" is good.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:10 PM
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15. is that like agreeing with the Chimperor that it was 'time' for Saddam to leave?
good grief.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:08 AM
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16. it looks like he's been actively warming US-Mubarek relations
according to Telegraph article.
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