Pundits who are saying we shouldn't make this about LIEberman have a point -

[jillan]

We should make it about all the people that will die because they DON'T have healthcare.
And that we are giving Lieberman what he wants - attention.

Fuck him. And fuck everyone that makes him an important part of this debate.
He spoke at the Republican convention for crissakes. He is not worth all this attention.

I am sooooo mad :banghead: :banghead:

[MadMaddie]

1. We warned them about Lieberman

we warned them about trusting him and this is exactly what we warned them about.

The Dems are either naive or stupid and I am leaning toward the latter. Liebrman is an egotisitical bastard and it's about him sticking a knife in the liberals back it's not about saving American lives.

[jillan]

3. I heard Klobachar on msnbc earlier saying why we need him.

He voted for the stimulus - woman's issues -

GIVE ME A BREAK! He's a worthless piece of crap.

[MadMaddie]

5. Why are they making excuses for his actions

So what if he voted for the stimulus? This bill impacts a huge number of Americans where the stimulus impacted the already rich banks who had bad business practices and should have been allowed to fail.

[DrToast]

2. We should make it about the fact that we don't have a democracy

We should be holding "Pro Democracy" rallies in Washington, not health care rallies.

Let them send in the tanks.

[jillan]

4. Exactly - the corporations run this country and are running into the ground.

[Clio the Leo]

6. exactly. NT

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. You could make it about both, in one sentence

"Joe Lieberman doesn't care people will die because of him; he's too concerned about insurance company profits".

[jillan]

9. That sentence should be a thread of it's own.

[uponit7771]

8. +1!!!! It's about REID!! Pass cost controls via reconciliation & the rest through joint house\senate

...and lets move on

[jillan]

12. I was listening to Hartmann today and he was discussing this - and

I forgot who he was talking to - but they were saying if Reid had the backing of the Whitehouse he probably would do it.

[LooseWilly]

10. Hells, I'm happier *without healthcare* than I would be with mandated private insurance.

Pull the mandated giveaway to the HMOs, and the rest of the bill is tolerable...

[jillan]

11. That part needs to go. This is turning out to be a big huge Christmas Present to the insurance Cos.

:puke:

[LooseWilly]

14. yeah, get rid of that... and I'm willing to tolerate a "reform" that helps others...

but does nothing for me.

Throw in the mandate... and I am an unhappy camper. Very unhappy.

[Laelth]

13. It's not about Lieberman. Barack Obama is 95% responsible for this mess.

And that makes me very sad.

:dem:

-Laelth