Need help.. can DUers point me to an article on unions funding their own benefits, not taxpayers.

[Billy Burnett]

I'm putting an argument together and was wondering if DUers can point me to some articles on this. I think I glanced at some thread topic on this subjects a while back.

Many thanks, in advance. :hi:

[tularetom]

1. Not trying to derail your argument but what is a taxpayer dollar?

According to some republicans, every dollar that is paid to a public employee remains a taxpayer dollar forever.

By that reasoning, it is impossible for public unions to fund their own benefits since the taxpayers would always be paying for them.

And to some degree, that is true. Whether the payment is in salaries and wages, or in benefits, it is ultimately coming from the taxpayers.

IMO the taxpayers are getting a hell of a deal for what public employees are paid so maybe the argument should be, how much value do we attach to the things that make our lives easier like roads, water and sewer systems, schools and public safety?

[golfguru]

2. The relationship between Union wages & Taxes

Union dues--->Union management--->Politician's campaign donations--->Politicians pass
legislation to pay higher wages & benefits to government union workers--->That requires higher taxes
--->More union dues.
AT least that is how I understand it, FWIW.

[rfranklin]

3. Corporate funding of political campaigns...

buys votes of politicians...politicians pass legislation providing corporate welfare and tax loopholes while preventing regulation...taxpayers votes are made useless, consumers pay higher prices and suffer from dangerous products and pollution...while having to pay higher taxes since the rich and corporations are paying neglible taxes.

[golfguru]

4. yes, that is equally bad and why I am for 100% public funding

of all elections. That will eliminate all lobbyists and corruption overnight.