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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:16 AM
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Lieberman the most powerful lawmaker in DC? CT Dems want him Out!
EXCERPTS: U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman says it is not pleasant being the 60th senator.
By threatening to join a Republican filibuster that could be prevented only with 60 votes, Lieberman this week became arguably the most powerful lawmaker in Washington.

And, in some quarters, one of the most despised. Angry Democrats have been blasting him for threatening to block President Barack Obama's signature goal of health care reform.

So incensed is U.S. Rep. Rosa DeLauro, who has served in the Connecticut delegation with Lieberman for nearly 20 years, that she told the Politico website that Lieberman should be recalled for holding up health reform. The removal is impossible because Connecticut lacks a recall law, and DeLauro herself said she was unfamiliar with the process in the state because the action is so rare.

But she is hardly the only Democrat blasting him for opposing the so-called public option and the Medicare buy-in that would allow workers as young as 55 years old to join the government-paid health plan.

"It's no fun because I know a lot of them are disappointed," Lieberman said in a phone interview Tuesday afternoon.

Asked whether he has received tough feedback from colleagues, Lieberman said it was "a fairly emotional caucus" on Monday night when the Senate Democrats decided to drop the Medicare buy-in that many of them had sought. Still, Lieberman says there has been considerable movement this week on crafting a bill that would generate the necessary votes to ensure its passage.

"For me, this has been a very encouraging couple of days," Lieberman said.

Lieberman's role this week had made him even more unpopular with liberals back home in Connecticut. State Sen. Edith Prague of Columbia buried her head in her hands Tuesday when asked about Lieberman's position on health care.

"Can you help me get my vote back? I voted for him," Prague said after removing her hands from her face. "What a mistake. What a disappointment he has come to be."

Lieberman's power as the 60th senator has prompted speculation: Will he become even more isolated from Connecticut Democrats when the current furor subsides? And what, really, has been behind Lieberman's opposition?

He has consistently said he opposes a public option because he believes it will expand the size of government and add to the federal deficit. He labeled as "ridiculous" the "psychoanalysis" and political dissection of his motives. For example, Lieberman strongly rejected the notion that he was seeking to protect the insurance companies.

"They haven't really been lobbying me hard on this," Lieberman said. "I've never hesitated to take them on when I thought they were wrong."

State Rep. Chris Caruso, a Bridgeport Democrat, said that Lieberman's current views have nothing to do with supporting his home state's insurance industry, positioning himself for future office or loving the limelight. It relates directly, he said, to Lieberman's loss in the Democratic primary in 2006 against upstart Ned Lamont and his abandonment in the general election by the party's liberal wing.

"He's had this complete sea change in the last six or seven years, and he's betrayed his own roots and beliefs," Caruso said Tuesday. "I think in this case it's a clear vendetta. I'm really surprised at the pettiness and vindictiveness that he's showing."

Lieberman has won praise nationally from conservative talk-show hosts such as Sean Hannity and from the 60 Plus Association, a nonpartisan group touted as the conservative version of AARP.

In Connecticut, Democrats remember Lieberman from his days as a liberal state senator in the 1970s and his run against U.S. Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. when he took liberal stands on many issues.

Weicker said Tuesday that Lieberman must be held accountable for his actions.

"Very frankly, if he doesn't want to be held accountable ... on an issue as important as this, it's not going to bode well for him in the future," said Weicker. "The state is very much for health care reform. There comes a day of reckoning."

Although Weicker considers himself an independent, he doesn't give the same label to Lieberman. "He was basically elected as a Republican when he lost the Democratic primary," Weicker said. "It was the Republicans who put him into office. Yes, I am an independent. I don't think Sen. Lieberman is an independent."

Lieberman said his previous position had been misunderstood, referring to the buy-in that was part of his platform as the Democratic vice presidential running mate of Al Gore in 2000. "But in 2000 our nation's budget was balanced, debt levels were less than half current levels, Medicare was not on the verge of insolvency, and there was no viable proposal like the one we are debating today to provide affordable coverage to more than 30 million Americans who currently lack health insurance, including people 55 to 65," Lieberman said.

http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-lieberman-1216.artdec16,0,452073.story?page=1
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:18 AM
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1. They had a chance in 2006.
Now they'll have to wait until 2012.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:20 AM
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2. It is a shame that we voted for this dirty LiebeRat! Three years to 2012 can do
a lot of damage to President Obama and the Democratic agenda. We have to put a law in the CT Constitution that allows recall of a failed politician like Joe LIEberman
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:08 PM
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12. They believed his lies. Hard to find a slimier pol.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:20 AM
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3. what a smarmy little asshole
he can go fuck himself. I will contribute heavily to any movement to can his self-serving ass.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:23 AM
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4. That Lieberman is still in power is partly the
fault of the other CT elected Democrats.

When he ran the last time as an Independent, the Democratic contingent, instead of fully backing the candidate that Democratic voters chose, stayed strangely silent.

And Barbara Boxer came to CT to campaign for Lieberman even though he was not running as a Democrat.

Chris Dodd did an ad for him very late in the campaign but Lamont was pretty much left on his own with not a lot of major Democratic politicians openly supporting him. If they had, I think that would have made a huge difference.

I'm sure they are all sorry now. How different things might be if it were Lamont representing us in the Senate. But instead these idiots thought that if they played nice with Lieberman he would play nice with them.

How did that work out, guys?

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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:28 AM
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5. As Obama caves to prez Joe
he is rapidly looking like a one-termer to me. Last night they voted against drug importation because Joe's wife works for the drug industry. Apparently Obama was against that as well.

Obama had a chance and blew it. If he had a meeting of one with Joe instead of telling all the other dems to get-along and give Joe what he wants, he may have been able to get reelected.

John Kennedy took on BIG steel and they backed down. Every day I turn on the news and Obama backs down to a SENATOR?

So 40 million new customers and no cost control. My brother has a small business and health insurance went up 20% this year. How long can that go on?

Dems had an historic opportunity and they have blown it big time and they can't even blame republicans, just Joe stands out with Obama caving.

Couple that with unemployment and no jobs being created and Wall Street living large again this is disaster for 2010 and Obama in 2012.

And passing a bad bill to "come back and fix it later" is bull shit. It has taken 40 years until now to get to an expansion of health care. There will be no fixes.

Governor Dean is correct. This bill is horrendous and offers nothing. I don't care what Jonathon Alter says or any of the rest, this is crap.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:31 AM
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6. I am in complete agreement with you. I cannot believe how President Obama
has let me down after all the hard work that we did for him. And Joe LIEberman needs to be held accountable..same as his pathetic corrupt wife Hadassah LIEberman :mad:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:35 AM
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7. Do you know how the Senate works or indeed how the government works
It is not a movie or a soap opera.

LIEberman is allowed to represent his constituents like any other congressperson. The POTUS is not their boss.

Maybe this happens on "THE West Wing" but not in reality.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:43 AM
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8. Wrong
He calls lieberman in and asks if he likes being chairman of homeland security and tells him how to vote, period. Besides, lieberman is NOT representing hs constituents.

You have little knowledge of how it works. Did Big Dog call in Marjorie and tell her how to vote and she lost her election? Who told Bush to screw off? Just Obama. Where the hell is lieberman from? CT Just tell him the shipyard will not get the next contract.
Who are you kidding. POTUS rules everything and if you slept through 8 years of Bush you wouldn't know that.

The progressives can also tell lieberman THEY will kill and bill and watch him get blamed and we are worse off it they do.

ps I don't watch west wing.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:25 AM
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9. His constituents are very much for healthcare reform
As stated in the OP.

Did you not read it?

Please take that "he is representing his constituents" talking point elsewhere. It does not apply.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:41 PM
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13. Lieberman is not representing his constituents.
Most people in my state support real HCR.

Lieberman represents Lieberman. Period. He doesn't give a shit about his constituents or any other citizen of this country. The only thing he cares about is his huge ego.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:44 AM
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10. Can we truly call him king joe? He is after all making the country do his bidding.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:04 PM
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11. CT Dems can poop in one hand...
...and poop in the other, too, for all that their wishes will matter to FailJoe. He's not in the Senate to represent them.
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