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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:53 PM
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The Grand Republican Plan: Corporate Monarchy
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 05:59 PM by RBInMaine
In 1992 I had an argument with a Republican "friend" who adoringly talked about big business CEO's being "The guys who run this country." He said it as naturally as could be. It is deep in their blood; in their very view of the world. When we look at these things, we need to understand how the Republican mind works. They LOVE and ASPIRE TOWARD big money corporate CEO's because they truly believe that these people are those who deserve to be in charge of society. Their very religion is that "They are better. They are smarter. They are more disciplined. They are the great American elite to whom we all should aspire to be. The capitalist market is everything, should determine everything, and those who get left behind, oh well, should have worked harder." THIS is why they hate unions and workers rights laws. It because they believe in their bones that workers should simply adhere to the whims of their corporate controllers; those who "run this country." This is their grand plan: to have them COMPLETELY run this country, have everything, control everything. This is why they love the Koch brothers. Guys like the Kochs "run this country" because they deserve to. And they should be worshipped like kings and should have the power of kinds because they exemplify all we should value in this life: money, status, and power.

Pretty sad isn't it? And pretty damn anti-American, that is, if you have a true understanding of our ideals.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:28 PM
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1. That isn't a republican plan
It is a corporate plan....and they pay handsomely to republicans....AND democrats to see it come to fruition. They play both sides of the fence, so to speak. And as long as they get their way - ECONOMICALLY SPEAKING - they are winning.

It is anti-american - you bet it is.

Are they winning?

check this out - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x627196

Yeah....they are.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:10 PM
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2. That table needs to be put in here to show what happens when Obama doesn't fight for
raising taxes on the rich while preserving them for everyone else.

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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:12 PM
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3. Thanks - I wasn't sure how to do that. nt
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:44 PM
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5. Oh goody, here we go with some more fringe Obama bashing even though has fucking well delivered
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 09:46 PM by RBInMaine
BY FAR the MOST progressive legislation we've had since LBJ. The tax bill we ideally wanted and which HE wanted COULD NOT PASS THE FUCKING CONGRESS. Is there something wrong with your ability to understand that simple fact? It was voted on, and it DID NOT FUCKING PASS. So there was NO CHOICE but to compromise for a TEMPORARY extension for the wealthy while also keeping the middle class rates and getting unemployment insurance extended and other middle class tax breaks. And there was a fucking time limit so they had to move on it. The man needs to actually GOVERN, something you've obviously never had to do.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:32 PM
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6. There's always a choice, and on this issue Obama chose wrong. n/t
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:48 AM
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8. Your so busy rolling over in glee
And still you obscure that it was OBAMA who introduced the payroll tax holiday into the conversation. It was OBAMA who did not allow ANY democrats to the table other than himself. And it is OBAMA who touts the payroll tax holiday as a democratic victory when absolutely no democrat before him would claim ownership of an obviously republican ideal.....and still do not!

That isn't governing for the majority. And it absolutely ignores the wishes of the majority - it even ignores his own campaign promises and instead - it is whoring for the rich. The table clearly indicates the cost of doing that in very real terms.

But - your right. The office of presidency apparently holds very little real power. And we shouldn't jump to blame Obama for the failures of the senate and the congress. It remains fact - that the senate and the congress do very little to govern to the benefit and wishes of the majority of americans - not when it comes to economic parity. It leaves the vast majority of the american public very few options. They can continue to work within the democratic model....or not. The choice is theirs. You would still try to harness that anger/delusion onto the backs of the republicans and I can understand that - but you, Obama, Boehner, or even Rand Paul cannot control the rising Tsunami. The people are actively looking to other options. You cannot claim ownership of their anger when you ignore it. They won't be coming in droves to the democratic tent when the democrats are seen as weak, ineffective and undetermined in upholding their principles.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:38 PM
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4. No, the ReTHUGS are both their political arm and benefactors and believe in them as rightful kings.
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 09:50 PM by RBInMaine
And MUCH moreso than most Democrats. This crap about D's and R's being the "same" is horseshit. The average RePUKE believes their corporate kings deserve to be in charge, and they idolize them and aspire to be rich and powerful just like them. It is their worldview. It is their value system. MUCH moreso than most Dems. Yes, there are always exceptions, but just look at WI and you see the glaring difference. Same can be said for MOST D's. Not all, but most.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:45 PM
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7. Your middle-class GOPer would like a return to the middle of the 19th century
They want "real" America. Individual is completely responsible for himself/herself. If something happens (lose an arm) tough luck. If you succeed in the free market you win. If not, you lose. The leaders of business are the "select" few who should not be worshipped or blindly followed, but rather emulated (and respected).

That is much more their mindset.

They think the government is an evil meddler in their utopia and basically want to kill it (except for national defense-- which they feel is necessary to help keep the envious nations from trying to destroy this "utopia")


What really happens when freedom loving pioneers come into hard times? Well, one example of how things go wrong with this mindset might be the "Donner party."




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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:27 AM
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9. It isn't the GOP plan, it's Bushes' NWO plan for Global Fascism and they used the GOP to achieve it.
The fascists gained control of the GOP through the Bush family and their cronies.

The rank and file GOP voters have no clue to how badly they've been used by fascists hiding behind banners like guns, god, and flag.
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