LeftyAndProud60
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Sun Mar-13-11 10:43 PM
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Obama saved the auto industry but could still lose Michigan according to this? |
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The slide show cites Michigan and Pennsylvania as places where Mr. Obama's standing has dropped since 2008 while GOP support has gone up. Using bureaucratic short hand for President of the United States, the slides warn: "POTUS maintains clear but narrowed support" and note there is "significant work to do to increase support among key demographics." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576198511568155224.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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Sun Mar-13-11 10:47 PM
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1. until he has an actual challenger, the polls are just something to pass the time with. nt |
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Sun Mar-13-11 10:51 PM
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2. I'd be suspicious of Ruperts WSJ. |
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Sun Mar-13-11 10:59 PM
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How so, by voting to bail them out?
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GeorgiaPeach
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Sun Mar-13-11 11:01 PM
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4. How many cars are still being made in MI? |
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Mon Mar-14-11 12:18 AM
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8. More than in Georgia......... |
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Mon Mar-14-11 08:59 AM
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9. Quite a few -- I've got one from there.... |
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and it's not just about final assembly; thousands of subsidaries and parts suppliers are in MI/OH as well...
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Sun Mar-13-11 11:09 PM
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Not knowing what the WSJ is basing their MI/PA remark on (i.e. not seeing many recent polls), I will say this:
Republicans won every single statewide race this past November - but that was with low turnout, one of the lowest gubernatorial turnouts since the 1960s. A lot of places saw horrible turnout - Detroit, Grand Rapids, Flint, etc. A lot of people who didn't vote are either Democrats or people who would've voted Democratic. Many of them WILL vote in 2012 - whether or not that will be enough for Obama, we don't know.
Snyder won with fewer than 2 million votes - and he was popular (though not so much now that he's revealed his nasty plans). In a presidential race in which 5 million people are likely to vote, the Republican ticket will have to do much better.
We on DU know that Obama saved the auto industry, but most people don't... yet. That's what campaigns are for. (At least in theory.)
Michigan is almost always a battleground state, but one where Democratic presidential candidates do better than they do nationally. Gore and Kerry each won by 3 or 4 points, while Obama got 57% (as opposed to 53% nationally). If Obama loses Michigan, he will probably lose nationally - not because Michigan was the deciding state, but because a tide of sorts turns so many other states red that Michigan will be caught up in it. By that I mean, odds are that Obama will lose OH/VA/IA before he loses MI/PA/WI.
Much can happen in 20 months - good and otherwise. We won't know for some time whether this will be a landslide for Obama, a landslide for the Republican, or a close one.
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Sun Mar-13-11 11:32 PM
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6. The GOP is in the process of killing Michigan |
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I very much doubt that any of us remaining in this state are going to be happy with them come the GE.
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Mon Mar-14-11 12:08 AM
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7. was just in Michigan yesterday |
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working with a man who (although I tried to shy away from politics) volunteered "I hate the President" ... something about guns or some such thing... it is very scary and irrational
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:08 PM
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10. Gee, a poll from the Wall Street Assrag |
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with unfavorable results for Obama.
I'm shocked, really, I am. It's not like the WSJ is owned by that disgusting puke Murdoch, who has a vested interest in lying about Obama to demoralize Democrats. Nope. Nothing to see here.
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:40 PM
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11. Has the wall street journal started reporting the news down the middle? |
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When I used to read it during the Clinton era, it always cut out the left side of any argument. Is it better at calling a spade a spade now?
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