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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:14 AM
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Do you think Obama's campaign is going to be namby-pamby, "I'm middle of the road" and safe?
Is what we're seeing from Obama, what we're going to get? He seems to be a Carteresque wimp, so desperate to be loved by the independents that he's losing respect from everyone. (But of course, he still has my vote over any Republican.)

- He didn't take a bold stand on Wisconsin.

- He's not speaking out forcefully about what's wrong with the Tea Party.

- He's not making a case for fixing our deficit by raising taxes on the wealthy.

- He's not arguing that budget cuts will lead to job losses.

- He's not taking a strong stand on transparency.

- He's not even taking a strong stand on Libya.

- He's not even taking a tough stand on oil companies as the price of gas and heating oil skyrockets.

- He's not even taking a bold stand on Wall Street, where bonuses are back to pre-recession levels.

- He doesn't really seem to be standing up for anyone, just trying not to make too many waves.

Frankly, he's a bore. Maybe that's what Americans want, but let's remember that our boring Presidents -- be it Carter, Ford, or Bush I did not fare well. I keep hoping we'll see an Obama who leads and fights and makes a passionate and fact-based case for liberalism, but instead he seems to be, as they say, no drama Obama.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:20 AM
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1. Yes nt
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:26 AM
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2. To me, it isn't going to make much difference what kind of campaign he puts on.
The record of status-quo governance that he has already demonstrated makes me rather impervious to anything he might say.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:37 AM
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3. No, but it won't matter...
...he'll be out-spent 5 to 1.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:44 AM
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4. he didn't surround himself with the rubinite financialists to be out spent.
he'll have the bucks.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:45 AM
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5. He's stacked his cabinet and staff with DLC retreads from the Clinton WH
And he's listening to them and the beltway pundits instead of the people.

At this point a high energy campaign filled with fiery rhetoric would sound hypocritical given the way he has governed.

He has to demonstrate that he gives a shit BEFORE the campaign begins. Like now. Or yesterday.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:50 AM
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6. "He's not even taking a strong stand on Libya. "
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:07 AM
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7. I guess he could have
launched airstrikes on Tripoli. Maybe that would have made certain posters happy?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:11 AM
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8. "He's not taking a strong stand on transparency."
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:39 AM
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39. Any news on whether the President will disclose those who visit
the nearby office suite instead so that their names don't go on the White House visitors list?

How about the meetings at the local Caribou Coffee. Are they covered?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:36 AM
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9. He'll try to pull some symbolic liberal "rabbits" out of his hat first, but the campaign itself will
be all directed at the middle-of-the-road types. In other words, it will pander to moderate Republicans and will be a big-money media-based campaign.

He won't have the Obama For America millions of volunteers in '12, so he'll need to spend hundreds of millions on media buys - he'll raise that money on Wall Street. We all know what that entails - a further move to the Right in governing.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:37 AM
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10. Maybe he should nationalize the oil industry?
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:01 AM
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11. "Just think of me as an Eisenhower but not as liberal".
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:02 AM
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12. I could care less, all Obama has to do is tout 8% unemployment and he'll win
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:02 AM
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13. I didn't expect perfect, I expected adequate and got good....
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:16 AM
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14. Funny how some can see things differently.
The President will accept an award from a coalition of good government groups and transparency advocates in conjunction with Sunshine Week, on transparency in government.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/03/the-presidential-planner-10.html
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 11:28 AM
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17. Not hard to look good on that coming after GW Bush
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 11:29 AM by Armstead
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:57 AM
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15. It doesn't matter what he campaigns on. We have two
choices, him or a republican. :shrug: The up side is I don't have to listen to the speeches or debates, knock on doors or anything. All I have to do is show up and vote against whoever the GOP puts up.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:59 PM
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26. Exactly what I'm going to do. I don't want to hear him anymore, see him or think about him.
I will show up, vote against every Republicon and then sit back and watch the show for the 4yrs after. For those who have to vote on those rigged, paperless GOP machines, you will vote Democratic, and your vote will amazingly go to the Republicon and you'll never know it happened. Election reform is a good idea at this point in our history so elections cannot be easily manipulated to the advantage of the corporations and Republicons, but the powerful, rich and Rethugs don't want a paper trail.....I wonder why?
Lou
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 11:21 AM
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16. He'll take centrist positions, and win re-election easily.
He's in better shape than he was in 2008. He has a greater share of approval from independent voters than he had then.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:30 PM
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18. The youth vote didnt pan out during the midterms
...because 'hope' and 'change' didn't pan out. Hate to inform you, but there is no 'center' in a two party system.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:34 PM
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19. They didn't "pan out" because Obama wasn't on the ticket. They will "pan out" in '12. n/t
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:44 PM
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22. Mindless slogans never pan out
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:58 PM
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25. Obama wasn't on the ticket in '10. That's why the youth vote didn't "pan out."
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 02:01 PM by jenmito
And now instead of, "Yes we can" he can run on "Yes we did." And Obama will win again. With the youth vote as well as all other groups he won in '08.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:18 PM
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28. Nice spin
The youth that rode Obama to victory in 08 did not show up in 10, because Obamas neutralized his own 'Hope' and 'Change' memes.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:33 PM
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30. Nice try.
Obama wasn't on the ticket. The congresspeople up for reelection didn't fire up the youth. Period.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:05 PM
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32. Same spin
"The congresspeople up for reelection didn't fire up the youth. Period."

Wishful spin.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:14 PM
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33. It's reality.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 10:34 AM
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34. Mindless slogans never pan out
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 11:23 AM
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35. Your meme doesn't pan out.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:53 PM
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23. Today's "centrist" is yesterday's "raving conservative."
It's pathetic.

Bake
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:41 PM
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20. ProSense's posts on this thread pretty much disproved your OP. And as far as running on
being "...middle of the road..." do you not remember him being proud of having Repubs. supporting him? They were known as "Obamacans." And how 'bout his line about there not being a 'red' America or a 'blue' America but the United states of America? What short memories some have.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:29 PM
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21. It already is - Win the Future (just don't talk controversial details).
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 01:31 PM by polichick
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:57 PM
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24. I have read that the President is planning to spend 1 billion bucks
on campaign. Unbelievable. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:02 PM
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27. No-people think he will raise that much. We'll see. n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:20 PM
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29. Sounds like the right wing meme about Al Gore
He's boring. What is the President, the main entertainer? What's with the need for drama? More gets done by people doing their jobs than just creating drama for the bored.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:50 PM
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31. Like his last run, it will be all hate preachers and hard cash
Big, orchestrated, intentionally chaotic rallies. High drama. 'Ministers' who slander minority groups at 'Faith Meets Politics' events. Prayer meetings, McClurkin, Warren, Kirbyjon, the Obama Road Show we all know so well. Burning money like it was something we have to burn.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 11:24 AM
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36. His ass kicking will make Mondale look like a genius. nt
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:14 AM
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37. True.
Obama is boring. That is what happens when you try to morph from a Democrat to a Republican wannabe.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:26 AM
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38. I think Obama's campaign will be nonexistent.
Like his presidency.
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