Support or not for Operation Odyssey Dawn

[nmbluesky]

Operation Odyssey Dawn is the code name for the United States participation in the Libyan no-fly zone.<1> The United Kingdom counterpart to this is Operation Ellamy, the French Opération Harmattan. The no-fly zone was proposed during the 2011 Libyan uprising to prevent government forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi from carrying out air attacks on rebel forces. Several countries have prepared to take immediate military action at a conference in Paris on 19 March, 2011.

[vaberella]

1. I'm in the "well maybe...but I don' t know"

Cause I just see way too much fail around it. But I do support the Libyan people and their right to peaceful protest and to bloody well live.

[liberal N proud]

2. What is in these names they use?

Don't answer it

[Telly Savalas]

4. Yeah, for as much money as we spend on the military industrial complex

you think they could hire a consultancy to come up with less cornball names for these operations.

[liberal N proud]

11. The military probably paid someone enormous amounts to develop that name

That is the really sick part

[Telly Savalas]

16. Yeah, now that I think about it, you're probably right.

[Keith Bee]

10. I guess "Operation Umbrella" had been used previously

After all, that would be the logical name for it.

[vaberella]

3. Oh for Christ's sake. I'm the last one----well I think the last and the second are similar. n/t

[Aristus]

5. I'm in favor of it for the code name alone.

Finally, a U.S. military operation that doesn't have some stupid, cockamamie, propagandistic code name...

Operation Just Cause.
Operation Restore Hope.
Operation Enduring Freedom.
Operation Iraqi Freedom.
etc...


I'm f*****g SICK of the bullshit code names. Shit, even the Nazis didn't do that. They could have come up with shit like "Operation Avenge Versailles", or "Operation Preserve Aryan Racial Supremacy" or "Operation Those Untermensch Russians Have More Land Than We Do And We Want It". But they didn't do it. They had bland, meaningless code names like "Case Yellow", "Case Blue", or "Case White".

A code name is meaningless if you just come right out and say what you're going to do...

edit: punctuation error.

[ClarkUSA]

6. lol!

You're a linguist at heart and a wit by nature. :thumbsup:

[Aristus]

7. And I study the work of better writers.

Like William Shakespeare and Aaron Sorkin.

[ClarkUSA]

8. It shows.

;)

[Aristus]

9. Well, thank you...

B-)

This concludes Operation Impress The Hell Out Of Everyone With My Writing.

The troops will be home soon...

:P

[vaberella]

15. Oh for Christ's Sake..I love it. This is so sad, but I pictured...

getting a list of Codenames and running through which ones he thought sounded better. Oy!

[CRH]

12. Code name, ...

Forget the Nuclear power crisis, we want to build more. Here watch this war instead.

[GeorgeGist]

13. Tell me more about the Odyssey.

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[Aristus]

18. You haven't been around long enough to know, but

my sig line used to be a quote from Lord Byron's "Don Juan" that I think is appropriate here: "If I laugh at any mortal thing, 'tis that I may not weep..."

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. I support this limited intervention

If we are doing this for humanitarian purposes (and I haven't seen any proof otherwise), then I am supportive of this intervention, provided it is limited to helping secure a no-fly zone and remains within the boundaries of the UN mandate. The comparisons I've been seeing here to the Iraq invasion/occupation are ludicrous IMHO. We are NOT acting unilaterally nor are we putting in ground troops. The stated intention is not even to remove Ghaddafi (though that might eventually be a secondary outcome of our intervention). As for the allegations that this is another "war for oil," I might point out that Libya doesn't produce that much oil and most of that oil goes to Europe. Were people this opposed to our Kosovo intervention when Clinton was POTUS? :shrug:

[Hawkowl]

19. We will fuck it up

The only reason we are intervening in Libya is because of oil. Which means the corporations are calling the shots, and thus we will fuck over the people of Libya. It will end badly.

The oil corporations neither want, nor care about my support. And I would say the Obama administration has demonstrated the same.

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[golfguru]

21. Kucinich is upset!

Kucinich asked why the U.S. missile strikes aren’t impeachable offenses.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51595.html

[FrenchieCat]

22. I don't read Politico......

But I'm with Samantha Power, France and the U.N. on this one.

[golfguru]

26. Politico comes across as balanced to me anyway

and they have the most variety of topics compared to other blogs.

[displacedvermoter]

28. And the President!!!!!

It goes without saying!

[bhikkhu]

23. Having followed the developments closely, mass-slaughter is the alternative

...and very quickly at that. Keep in mind the general timeline: Gadhafi responded to calls for democracy and dignity by calling in ruthless mercenaries; when much of his country revolted and turned from him, he again mustered his military and took cities back with heavy military weaponry; as he closed in on the last big city (Benghazi, 600,000 people) and promised "no mercy, no pity", his UN representative (who had repudiated him previously) begged for help, stating that there were only hours left before the bloody end of that city.

I think the UN did the right thing, with more than enough hesitation and second chances offered, and only when the only alternative left was to turn our backs and ignore what promised to be a slaughter.

[Politicalboi]

24. I think we are going to neuter

Gaddafi and let his people kick his ass out.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

25. I'm in the "hell, no, we won't go!" category

I want no part of a third quagmire in the region.

We've been in Iraq since 1991. Isn't that about enough?

[Name removed]

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[krawhitham]

29. Poll should read are you for or against stopping Genocide