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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:52 PM
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We're Too Dumb to Function

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/3/21/134646/756

We're Too Dumb to Function

by BooMan
Mon Mar 21st, 2011 at 01:46:46 PM EST


At least part of the premise of representative democracy is that a majority is probably right about most things. They're probably right because, hopefully, they have some passing familiarity with the most basic facts, or can learn them rather easily when it becomes necessary in a given case. We know the majority can sometimes become overwhelmed by transitory passions and we deal with that by having civil rights protections, a separation of powers, a bicameral legislature, and an independent judiciary. All told, it works fairly well, and better than any other extant alternative. Our particular system has strengths and weaknesses compared to other representative systems, but it still works on the same basic premises as all "free" societies. However, our civil protections are clearly weakening, and out electorate may simply be too uneducated and disengaged to make our system work properly. We rightly complain constantly about how powerful, mostly corporate, interests have too much power in our system, and that's true. If we can't fairly ascertain the opinion of the majority, or if that opinion is shaped by a debate-landscape completely dominated by one side, then we've lost the premise. The majority in Congress has no relationship to the majority of the citizenry. But the other side of the coin is that we're a nation of morons whose opinion on anything is almost by definition uninformed crap. For example, how many Americans can find Libya on a map? How many know exactly what Planned Parenthood does? Who understands how the Social Security Trust Fund works or knows who is lying about it and who is telling the truth?

It's not like the majority used to be so much more enlightened. But there has to be a cost to the performance of a representative government when the people who are being represented are functionally operating with a sixth-grade knowledge of public policy and world affairs. That's why a commitment to public education and civics is an essential component in an open, representative system.

They used to talk about "virtue" in revolutionary days. No one knows when they meant these days. But who can talk about civic responsibility and virtue when our debate is about birth certificates, death panels, and whether biology and plate tectonics should be taught in schools or if that violates people's right to be uniformed jackasses and pass along their ignorance to their children?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:54 PM
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1. Invest in cockroach futures.
:think:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:57 PM
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2. "a sixth-grade knowledge of public policy and world affairs"?
Ha! I wish it was that high.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 03:03 PM
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3. Just like a "LowerMyBills.com" online ad
n/t
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 03:29 PM
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4. Pretty much sums it all up nicely doesn't it?
"who can talk about civic responsibility and virtue when our debate is about birth certificates, death panels, and whether biology and plate tectonics should be taught in schools or if that violates people's right to be uniformed jackasses and pass along their ignorance to their children? "


Indeed.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 03:37 PM
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5. "A modern economic system demands
. . . mass production of students who are not educated and have been rendered incapable of thinking."
– U.N.E.F. Strasbourg, On the Poverty of Student Life (1966).
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:40 PM
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6. I don't think public education is the problem
I think public education is decent, people just forget what they learn. I think our media is a huge problem in shaping and promoting these diversionary and distracting issues rather than reporting basic facts. Whenever I have a debate with someone I disagree with who have extremely strong opinions on the federal budget I ask them basic questions about the budget, and they don't konw. How big is it, how big are programs XYZ, where does tax revenue come from. I have a basic knowledge, but beyond that I really don't know what happens. But many people don't even have the basic knowledge, but they have extremely strong opinions anyway.

I can't understand why when it comes to basic science like evolution we are so far behind other developed nations. Barely 10% of people agree with evolution via natural selection (50% support creationism, 40% support ID).

Is it better in other countries, or was it better in the past? Many of the democracies that now exist only came into existence in the last 20-30 years, so you'd assume there would be more ground level support for participation.
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