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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 04:53 PM
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This new Libyan war can be used as a recruiting tool by Al-Qaeda
US Presidents and other politicians continue to stress that America is not at war with Islam.

It's just a complete coincidence that all the countries on the receiving end of our bombs, missiles and occupying forces are Muslim countries.

Yikes! And people wonder why 9/11 happened.

Intervention in Libya may actually make America less safe in the long run because it can be used as a recruiting tool by Al-Qaeda just like Iraq and Afghanistan.

We've got to learn to stop using military force in Muslim countries because it will come back to bite us, again.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 04:55 PM
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1. It won't.
The few Al-Qaeda in Libya who were against the war in Iraq are for the NFZ in Libya.
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Runework Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:21 PM
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3. short memories here
"The few Al-Qaeda in Libya who were against the war in Iraq are for the NFZ in Libya."

They were for the US militarily intervening in Afghanistan in the early 80s too...

How'd that turn out?



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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:31 PM
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4. It turned out wrong because of what we did in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War.
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 05:33 PM by vaberella
Not just what we did there---but because we ignored the pleas of the people to keep it an Arab Issue.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:07 PM
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9. That is true and the NFZ was calling for the no-fly zone
and praising France for pushing the rest of NATO countries to get on board.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:01 PM
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2. You know, Ghadaffi's government could be used as a recruiting tool by Al-Qaeda.
In fact, almost anything can be, and is, used as a recruiting tool by Al-Qaeda.

But a rebel victory in Libya would make Al Qaeda recruiting so much less effective.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:32 PM
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5. First Gadaffi claimed that the rebels were "al-qaeda". Then he threated to "join al-qaeda"
That sort of instability and contradiction would be a poor recruiting tool
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:40 PM
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6. not very effectively
considering it is in support of Muslim youth who specifically asked, yay even begged, for it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:44 PM
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7. Unrec. Just the opposite-al Qaeda HATES that we got the approval of the Arab League and agreed to
HELP the Libyan people who were PLEADING with us to help them stop Qaddafi's massacre of the people. Good try, though. :eyes:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:55 PM
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8. Wow I get an unrec AND the eyes?
I feel special! :hi:

You might be right. It's probably just a coincidence that all 3 American wars are currently in Muslim countries. I mean it's not like Al-Qaeda can point to that as their proof that America is at war with Islam.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:14 PM
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13. How can you explain that the Libyan rebels just had a "Thank You Rally" for the U.S. and
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 09:16 PM by jenmito
the other countries helping them? They showed it on MSNBC tonight. Keep trying to equate Obama to Bush and Libya with Bush's wars, though. :hi:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 06:20 PM
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19. those rebels are clearly WORSE THAN HITLER
just like their crazed leader, Mullah Obama.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 07:28 PM
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23. According to the logic of the OP,
you're right. Luckily, the OP lacks logic.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:10 PM
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10. Wishful thinking, or just another opportunity to speculate,
now on what Al-Qaeda thinks.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 05:45 PM
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Here's a West Point Study provides some insight:
2007 West Point Study Shows Benghazi-Darnah-Tobruk Area was a World Leader in Al Qaeda Suicide Bomber Recruitment
“Serpents, thirst, heat, and sand … Libya alone can present a multitude of woes that it would beseem men to fly from.”
Lucan, Pharsalia
Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D. | TARPLEY.net
March 24, 2011
Washington DC, March 24, 2011 — The current military attack on Libya has been motivated by UN Security Council resolution 1973 with the need to protect civilians. Statements by President Obama, British Prime Minister Cameron, French President Sarkozy, and other leaders have stressed the humanitarian nature of the intervention, which is said to aim at preventing a massacre of pro-democracy forces and human rights advocates by the Qaddafi regime.
But at the same time, many commentators have voiced anxiety because of the mystery which surrounds the anti-Qaddafi transitional government which emerged at the beginning of March in the city of Benghazi, located in the Cyrenaica district of north-eastern Libya. This government has already been recognized by France and Portugal as the sole legitimate representative of the Libyan people. The rebel council seems to be composed of just over 30 delegates, many of whom are enveloped in obscurity. In addition, the names of more than a dozen members of the rebel council are being kept secret, allegedly to protect them from the vengeance of Qaddafi. But there may be other reasons for the anonymity of these figures. Despite much uncertainty, the United Nations and its several key NATO countries, including the United States, have rushed forward to assist the armed forces of this rebel regime with air strikes, leading to the loss of one or two coalition aircraft and the prospect of heavier losses to come, especially if there should be an invasion. It is high time that American and European publics learned something more about this rebel regime which is supposed to represent a democratic and humanitarian alternative to Gaddafi.

http://www.americanpendulum.com/2011/03/2007-west-point-study-shows-libyan-rebels-come-from-main-al-qaeda-suicide-bomber-recruitment/?du
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:11 PM
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11. Not likely.
The Libyans for the most part are very happy about the no-fly zone. The Arab League is on board. That's not fertile ground for al Queda.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:14 PM
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12. FAIL. Keep trying...
:rofl:
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 04:38 PM
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15. Loose women and Jim Beam are also used as recruiting tools by Al-Qaeda
There's no shortage of recruiting tools...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 05:45 PM
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16. Again-How can you explain that the Libyan rebels just had a "Thank You Rally" for the U.S. and
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 05:45 PM by jenmito
the other countries helping them? They showed it on MSNBC last night. Keep trying to equate Obama to Bush and Libya with Bush's wars, though. It's not true and not backed up by the facts.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 05:57 PM
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17. Bin Laden also appreciated our involvement in Afghanistan when we used them to attack the Soviets
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 06:03 PM by Cali_Democrat
Just because certain segments support the action, it does NOT mean it is the correct action.

Again, this is not about Bush vs Obama. This is about war in Muslim countries.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 06:44 PM
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20. No WAY are they comparable. But keep digging. The PEOPLE, the Muslim PEOPLE,
are THANKING us for this "war in" their country.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 06:56 PM
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21. Ever heard of the term...."the enemy of my enemy is my friend?" That's what's happening in Libya.
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 07:00 PM by Cali_Democrat
The same can be applied to Afghanistan. When people are focused on a single objective like fighting an opposing army, they look for allies wherever they can get them regardless of who it is.

This is exactly what happened in Afghanistan when Bin Laden and the Mujahadeen took support from the United States in order to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The US was using them as a proxy to attack the Soviets and the Mujahadeen took US help in order to drive out the Soviets. The two sides used each other. Of course aiding Bin Laden came back to bit us.

This can easily happen in Liyba...http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=637710&mesg_id=638299
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 07:26 PM
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22. Keep digging. You're still comparing apples and oranges. The Libyan intervention is NOT
Iraq or Afghanistan. Bin Laden does NOT equal the Libyan people nor anyone else you try to make the comparison to. :eyes: again.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 06:04 PM
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18. When the President of the United States sneezes, Al Qaeda tries to use it
as a recruitment tool.

We were right to intervene in Libya and going "OH NO WHAT WILL THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION THINK OF US" shouldn't change any minds.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 07:43 PM
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24. Gadhafi is not Islam
and has been an enemy of Islamists for ages. You can spin anything and find a buyer, but in this case (as in Egypt and Tunisia) there's really no advantage to Al Qaeda.

It festers along where there are dictators, invaders and oppression; it withers in sunlight.
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:40 AM
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25. Al Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb supports the Rebels
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