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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:19 PM
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The Senate passed a resolution that called for among other things a no fly zone in Libya on 3/1
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 05:44 PM by karynnj
I completely missed this, but looked in Thomas after Jay Carney mentioned that the Senate did pass a resolution that called for essentially what they did. It was passed by unanimous consent - meaning NO ONE called for a roll call vote. (This doesn't happen without the top leadership on both sides agreeing.)

Here is the information.



S.RES.85
Latest Title: A resolution strongly condemning the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya, including violent attacks on protesters demanding democratic reforms, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Menendez, Robert (introduced 3/1/2011) Cosponsors (10)
Latest Major Action: 3/1/2011 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Submitted in the Senate, considered, and agreed to without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent.
Jump to: Summary, Major Actions, All Actions, Titles, Cosponsors, Committees, Related Bill Details, Amendments
SUMMARY AS OF:
3/1/2011--Passed Senate without amendment. (There is 1 other summary)

(This measure has not been amended since it was introduced. The summary of that version is repeated here.)

Applauds the courage of the Libyan people in standing up against the dictatorship of Muammar Gadhafi and for demanding democratic reforms and respect for human and civil rights.

Condemns systematic violations of human rights in Libya, including attacks on protesters demanding democratic reforms.

Calls on Muammar Gadhafi to desist from further violence, recognize the Libyan people's demand for democratic change, resign his position, and permit a peaceful transition to democracy.

Welcomes the vote of the U.N. Security Council on resolution 1970 referring the situation in Libya to the International Criminal Court (ICC), imposing an arms embargo on the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, freezing Gadhafi family assets, and banning international travel by Gadhafi, members of his family, and senior advisors.

Urges: (1) the Gadhafi regime to abide by Security Council Resolution 1970, and (2) the Security Council to take such further action to protect civilians in Libya from attack, including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory.

Welcomes: (1) the African Union's (AU) condemnation of the disproportionate use of force in Libya and urges the AU to take action to address the human rights crisis in Libya, (2) the United Nations Human Rights Council's (UNHRC) decision to recommend Libya's suspension from the Council and urges the U.N. General Assembly to vote to suspend Libya's rights of Council, (3) Secretary of State Clinton's attendance at the UNHRC meeting in Geneva and urges the Council's assumption of a country mandate for Libya that employs a Special Rapporteur on the human rights situation in Libya, and (4) U.S. outreach to Libyan opposition figures in support of an orderly transition to a democratic government in Libya.
MAJOR ACTIONS:

3/1/2011 Introduced in Senate
3/1/2011 Passed/agreed to in Senate: Submitted in the Senate, considered, and agreed to without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent.
ALL ACTIONS:

3/1/2011:
Submitted in the Senate, considered, and agreed to without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent. (consideration: CR S1075-1076; text as passed Senate: CR S1076; text of measure as introduced: CR S1068-1069)

TITLE(S): (italics indicate a title for a portion of a bill)

* OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
A resolution strongly condemning the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya, including violent attacks on protesters demanding democratic reforms, and for other purposes.

COSPONSORS(10), ALPHABETICAL : (Sort: by date)

Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. - 3/1/2011
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. - 3/1/2011
Sen Durbin, Richard - 3/1/2011
Sen Gillibrand, Kirsten E. - 3/1/2011
Sen Kirk, Mark Steven - 3/1/2011
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. - 3/1/2011
Sen Sanders, Bernard - 3/1/2011
Sen Schumer, Charles E. - 3/1/2011
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon - 3/1/2011
Sen Wyden, Ron - 3/1/2011
COMMITTEE(S):

***NONE***

RELATED BILL DETAILS:

***NONE***

AMENDMENT(S):

***NONE***



Here is an article that gives Carney's answer disputing that they did not consult Congress.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/03/24/134830879/obama-aide-rejects-boehner-charge-on-lack-of-libya-consult
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:21 PM
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1. Thnks for finding. A lot of confusion about this n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:23 PM
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2. I was stunned reading the Carney answer because I thought I was
following it. Menendez made very strong comments during last week's SFRC hearing.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:28 PM
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3. Here's MORE text of the resolution
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 05:34 PM by Tx4obama
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:36 PM
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5. Thanks - and thanks to Prosense as well
As you can guess, I missed your thread from a few days ago. Your thread was great.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:35 PM
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4. Good find.
:thumbsup:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:37 PM
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6. There's a link above to a better thread from a few days ago that you should look at
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:38 PM
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7. Well the senate was wrong.
More people will come to see the foolishness of the elites' take on this.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:39 PM
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8. The resolution was passed by 'unanimous consent' which is different than 'voice vote'
A 'voice vote' would be a roll call vote.
In the senate they do not vote by electronic machine.
Unanimous Consent is an agreement that is passed if no one objects but the senators do not individually vote.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:43 PM
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9. thanks - I fixed it
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 05:44 PM by karynnj
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:19 AM
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10. You do know that Senate resolutions have no legal weight.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:23 AM
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11. Maybe not
but it does challenge the assertion that Congress was not consulted and/or that Obama's actions were completely unsanctioned/uncalled for. :shrug:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 04:01 PM
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13. Not to mention - given that Lugar is one of the stronger (and saner) voices saying that:
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 04:01 PM by karynnj
The SFRC had a top secret closed session hearing on Libya on March 16 and an OPEN hearing on the Arab uprisings that even CSPAN failed to cover on March 17. (It is archived on the SFRC website - http://foreign.senate.gov/hearings/hearing/?id=7548c4ce-5056-a032-52ba-33d0f1f65863 It is well worth watching as you can see that Kerry ran a very civil hearing where all Senators got ample time to ask their questions - and many thoughtful questions were asked - and most of them answered.

Now I used caps and bolded the word open - because that means that ANYONE, inside Congress or outside it, could have watched this hearing - and given that SFRC is the committee with oversight on foreign policy in the Senate, anyone wanting to hear what the administration said could have watched it - or had an aide watch it. (These were not the only hearings, but they themselves make it clear that the Congress was kept informed.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 03:51 PM
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12. yes, I do
Did you ever say that about the Iraq War resolution? Did you say that about Leiberman's Iran resolution in 2008? Neither, in and of themselves would have taken the country to war - just as this one couldn't. What does it mean to approve of a UN led NFZ?

I realize that they had roll calls and this one didn't, but that means that both leaders were willing to allow this one to pass by unanimous consent.



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