I am officially announcing that JEB BUSH will be the the 2012 Repub Nominee

[SoCalDemGrrl]

for President. Yes, he has been flying under the radar for the last few years and keeping his nose clean, but this is

THE PLAN.

I hate to say it, but we may have another 4-8 years of a BUSH in the WHITE HOUSE!!!

God help us!

[Hugabear]

1. Compared to the congo line of teabaggers, he'll look like a "moderate"

Compared to the likes of Bachmann, Palin, etc, Jeb Bush comes off looking like a "moderate". Of course he's anything but, which is a pretty damning statement in and of itself, of just how fucking crazy the repug party has gotten lately.

[blm]

27. That's why they WANT the cameras and mics focused on that crowd...Jeb will be run in 2016.

They already have their plans set for 2016. Just as Hillary set her plans for 2008. I hope it turns out the same way for Jeb as it did for HRC.

[opihimoimoi]

53. The mans head is a tad too big

[dhill926]

2. thanks for the nightmare.......

I've been thinking the same thing. They must know the other candidates have no hope of winning....

[Tx4obama]

3. It doesn't matter who the GOP 2012 nominee is, President Obama will win. n/t

[TheWraith]

8. Yep. It's not even going to be close. nt

[pnwmom]

11. So it will be practice for Bush's 2016 win. n/t

[bullimiami]

14. I dont think he will run this time for that reason. Look for Jeb in 1016.

He is every bit as evil as W. He just hides it better.

[ReturnoftheDjedi]

34. Evil Genius Jeb builds time machine, travels to 11th Century and rules the World

[CBGLuthier]

38. typo's is fun, eh.

[tweeternik]

23. Agreed, Obama will win again

Jeb Bush could make it closer ... maybe, but Obama still wins it. The best shot the GOP has is a Romney/Rubio ticket, imho, but I don't think the neo-cons will allow it. And Obama would beat them anyway!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. He's too savvy to run then...

He knows damn well that Obama will win it.

He most likely will run in 2016.

We will have forgotten how awful his brother was by then, and he'll look moderate...

ICK.

:puke:

[OmahaBlueDog]

5. I hate to tell you -- he's too moderate

He also suffers from a still-damaged brand name, and he lacks fundie-cred.

HOWEVER, he has high veep potential

I think they'll run Mike Huckabee with Chris Christie as veep. However, I'm not ruling out Donald Trump. If Donald Trump wins the nomination, I think Jeb would be high on his list of veeps.

[golfguru]

9. Interesting predictions n/t

[Clio the Leo]

10. and he's too smart...

... knows he can't beat Obama.

[bullimiami]

15. Hes no moderate. He just plays it down. One evil RMF.

[OmahaBlueDog]

39. I probably should have said "he's perceived as being too moderate"

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

24. Check out his "Robin" Marco Rubio then tell me how "moderate this jagoff is. nt

[onenote]

32. Huckabee/Cantor

That's my prediction for the Repub ticket, although Romney/Cantor is a possibility.

Huckabee satisfies the fundie base, while Cantor, being Jewish and from Virginia not only helps the repubs in two swing states that Obama took in 2008 (VA and FL), his presence on the ticket will be viewed by some as taking the edge off Huck's fundie roots. It also allows the repubs to claim that they're not just the white christian party. (I'm sure that they'd like to find a woman to put on the ticket, but the leading women in the party are most crazy).

Romney/Cantor is a remote possibility,but the Mormon/Jew combo probably turns off a large a swath of the fundie repub base to have a chance.

My two cents.

[OmahaBlueDog]

40. Interesting theory

I think they are grooming Cantor to either be Senator or Governor.

You are correct about VA and FL -- actually the same logic applies to Christie. He could take NJ away from the Dems, and possibly nudge the NY/NJ expat population in Broward & Palm Beach toward the Republican side.

George Pataki may be in the VP conversation as well.

[paparush]

44. Who'll play John Hinckley this time?

[OmahaBlueDog]

47. I couldn't tell you until I find out who's cast as Jodie Foster

[Drunken Irishman]

6. Doubt it.

[midnight]

7. As long as foreign money pours into our elections, and our votes can be stolen without

any verification, this process in choosing our leaders turns into high stakes jeopardy..... And those with the best tools win....

[Sherman A1]

12. Thanks

But, I will wait for him or whoever to make their own announcement. I don't really care who they run, as they won't get my vote in any case.

[Ter]

13. Tea Baggers hate neo-cons and Bushes

Tea Baggers will be even stronger in puke primaries in '12. No way a Bush can win.

[indimuse]

16. I knew it!

I have had the same feeling for a while...I pray not!

[joentokyo]

17. Does this mean Bush Lite (aka Barack Obama) won't get a second term?

[ReturnoftheDjedi]

33. no. Obama is in til 2016. Hope you have fun!

[JTFrog]

18. Lolz. n/t

[rasputin1952]

19. The name alone will kill any notions of Jeb...

not just because he is the brother of nitwit, but Americans in general would see this as some kind of "dynasty"...visceral response to that.

The nominee will almost assuredly be a relative unknown...first thing in any campaign...let the flashes in the pan slaughter themselves first...then offer up a "middle of the road" conciliator.

[krawhitham]

48. +1

[customerserviceguy]

20. Why do you think

the Rethuglican base will ignore what they consider to be his pro-illegal immigration stance? It's as difficult for them to swallow as Mitt Romney's Mormonism is for the fundies.

[verges]

21. Officially? Based on what?

Please provide links. Or at least what your authority is.

[onenote]

22. Officially,you are wrong.

[Fuddnik]

25. Jeb will be the nominee by default.

Every other Republican in the field is just too whacked out, except for maybe Romney, and there's no way that the thumpers are going to elect a Mormon. A Moron maybe, but not a Mormon.

And beware of Jeb. He's the smart one and very dangerous. Never misunderestimate the BFEE.

[Jamastiene]

26. Cringe

Just the thought of it. For me: Add 4 more years of therapy. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Go straight to therapy. :puke:

I hope you are wrong.

[vaberella]

28. Naw...I seriously think Huckabee might take this! n/t

[oberliner]

29. Romney/Bachmann

The McCain/Palin of 2012. With the same results in the general election.

[LWolf]

30. I'm officially announcing that I have little interest in the Republican nominee.

That my only campain/election-related interest is in finding a decent non-neoliberal Democrat to replace Obama as the Democratic nominee.

Improbable? Absolutely. It's the only action that stands a chance of engaging my active interest or participation in 2012, though.

[MadMaddie]

50. Perhaps you should spend more of your effort

replacing Senate and House weak Dems and Republicans instead of trying to destroy the Democratic Presdential race. Remember Nancy Pelosi had 300 plus bills stalled because the Senate couldn't do shit.

I guarantee if we have a real majority, not a bullshit majority of weak blue dogs that undermine everything, and a dependency on 3 or 4 wishy washy Republicans then we can move this country forward. I am going to bet that more agressive policey would have been pushed by President Obama if he didn't have a fucked up Senate. Elect Non-Neo Liberals to your state legislatures, the House and the Senate and you will get the results you want.


Don't forget our states governments, we have to replace all the Republicans to restore sanity.

We cannot snatch victory from ourselves because we are angry and short sighted....we did that in 2010 and look what we got. 22 States that are destroying public worker unions and anything else that provides anything to the common man.

We are all in this together and we may not all be happy with everything but know this....the Republicans are going to do everything possible to win.

If you want to fight about 2016 and who our nominee is at that time... I am with you.

[LWolf]

51. What gives you the percipience to judge how I spend my efforts?

Or that I would spend them "trying to destroy" the Democratic Presidential race? If there is a primary challenger, depending on who it is, I would probably spend a lot of effort to support that challenger. That doesn't destroy the race. It simply changes the line up.

If not, I wouldn't expend any effort on it at all, which is certainly not "trying to destroy" it.

I DO spend the majority of my efforts on local and state races. I DON'T spend much time talking about those races on DU, since most local and state voters aren't ON DU. Such efforts are expended on actual voters.

I don't get far in local efforts; those positions are firmly in Republican hands. I live in a strong Republican area. My local state rep, with my full support, DID switch parties, and DID achieve state-wide office. He passed away before his term ended, sadly.

Of course Republicans are going to do everything possible to win. Obama, in my opinion, regardless of whether he wins or loses, will do everything he can to ensure the advancement of the Republican and neo-liberal agendas, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not. I don't see an Obama win as "winning" anything or achieving anything I want to achieve. It's probably too late for him to convince me otherwise, since he's been very vocal, and very active, in promoting policies that I stand in direct opposition to on almost every front.

So...if there is someone better to support, I will. If not, I won't. All the exhortations to "get in line," all the cries of "do you want President ______?", all the calls for loyalty oaths, for lesser evils, all of the usual bully tactics regularly used to cow people into voting for the lesser evil won't make a difference to me. They simply are not effective. Instead, they tend to strengthen my resolve not to be bullied, and they tend to stir me to active opposition, rather than passive non-participation.

Meanwhile, I AM focused on local and state races. The most recent success? Replacing Republican Gordon Smith with non-neoliberal Jeff Merkley in the Senate. Preventing local (R) state senator chris Telfer from taking the office vacated by the death of state Treasurer Ben Westlund.

[MadMaddie]

55. I am not prejudging you

in the end you and I and others are on the same side.

I did not mention the lesser evil but I will say the if a Republican is elected what we see in the 22 States will be mere childs play. There are battles and there are real battles.

No one is asking you to get in lockstep, that is the beauty of the Democratic party isn't it? We have varying views but we know we do not agree with the Republican police church state.

I would suggest that many don't know of the many positive things that he is done because he isn't a braggard. He doesn't thump his chest and grab his crotch......

Here is a link that details many of the good things.
http://obamaachievements.org/list


Remember this he told us the truth....he said, "You will not always be happy with everything I do"!

He said that during the campaign..I took him at his word.

I am not happy with some things that he has done....but I will tell you this just like you I will work to make sure the Democratic party gains more seats. We have a few Republicans from WA that we need to replace. We have a Republican State Attorney General who needs to be replaced he jumped on the HCR lawsuit....I wrote him and told him I would do everything in my power to make sure he loses.

You and I are not enemies....

[LWolf]

56. Here's what counts for me;

what drives my votes at all times, what I want from the people who vote for me, in no particular order:

Focus on domestic needs, not war, not empire-building

Strong, unwavering, abundant support for labor; trust-busting, not union busting, no NAFTA/CAFTA, no pandering to the money.

Universal, single-payer, NOT-FOR-PROFIT health CARE.

Speaking of money, 100% publicly financed elections, with equal air time guaranteed to all, and debates that allow all candidates to answer all questions, with equal talk time.

Regulation of the airwaves.

Re-regulation of everything that's been de-regulated since Reagan. Publicizing everything that has been privatized to any degree since then.

Public education: stop pretending test scores evaluate schools and teachers; acknowledge that the system is a reflection on society, and abolish poverty.

High, and strongly enforced, environmental standards.

Investment in safe, sustainable energy sources.

Civil Liberties. Start with getting rid of the Patriot Act.

The nation should be moving to the left, not the right.

I could go on, but frankly, why? Obama has a terrible record on the issues that drive me.

That, and I'm a teacher. I know who my friends are, and aren't, in Washington. Obama isn't one of them.

[ReturnoftheDjedi]

31. There won't be another Bush elected in our lifetimes.

[Arugula Latte]

35. I think they'll push that fresh hell on us in 2016.

Mandatory sterilization of all Bushes. It should be the law.

[yellowcanine]

36. I don't think so. That well has been poisoned by the chimpster.

Republican primary voters can be stupid but not that stupid.

[Moral_Imagination]

37. You are delusional

He is DOA due to moderate immigration stance.

[Arkana]

41. Not gonna happen.

His last name is Bush--and it's only been two years.

[Imajika]

42. Absolutely no chance...

None. Zero, zilch, nada.

Even Republicans are largely sick of the Bush's.

Perhaps in 2016 after Obama's second term, but no chance in 2012.

[Capt. America]

43. I still believe that at this point, any body with the name Bush couldn't get elected Dog Catcher.

[Meeker Morgan]

45. What's Condoleeza Rice up to these days? n/t

[golfguru]

46. Things won't change much if Jeb Bush is elected

Jeb is a moderate republican which is not all that different from what
Obama policies have been so far.

If anything, Jeb is even more pro-amnesty of undocumented aliens.
And Jeb believes big time in programs which help the disadvantaged.

[MadMaddie]

49. If we get out and vote we can silence the Bush legacy in the WH

Jeb destroyed Florida and he will finish off the country.

[secondwind]

52. With Marco Rubio as the V.P. candidate. I have to think that Rubio will be a candidate

at one point or another.

[ezmerelda39]

54. 2012 election

No one is mentioning either one of the Koch brothers as contenders...they appear to be running the country already, just a matter of scooping up the big white house. We won't even have to bother to vote, it will be just another one of their 'takeovers.' When you have all of the money in the world what is left? The Power that Money can buy. If not the brothers themselves, then it will be somebody they hand pick and it won't be Obama. Candidates will fall all over the Kochs just like the Gov. of Wisconsin did when he thought he was talking to one of them.

[JCMach1]

57. VP this time, then full-on in 2016