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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:49 AM
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National Journal's Charlie Cook: Obama for the (2012) win? GOP strategists are quietly thinking yes.
The Cook Report: Obama’s Advantage
GOP strategists privately admit that the president has a good chance of winning reelection in 2012.


Thursday, March 24, 2011 | 1:55 p.m.

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But for all the pondering and posturing, a couple of things seem very clear. First, the truism that the Republican Party is hierarchical, that Republicans inevitably nominate whomever’s turn it is, does not appear to be the case this time. The Gallup Organization’s Lydia Saad pointed out in a March 7 report that “since 1952, Republican nomination races have always featured a clear front-runner at this stage of the campaign, and, in almost all cases, that front-runner ultimately won the nomination.” On March 5, National Journal published a great graphic of the Gallup data, on p. 32, showing as much. For that matter, 2012 doesn’t even resemble the Democratic situation in 2008, when Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama formed a top tier and others were trying to break through. At this stage, we don’t even have that much clarity. This is a pretty wide-open race.

But a second impression comes through in conversations with GOP strategists, donors, and activists. The bullishness that pervaded the Republican Party’s efforts to capture a majority in the House and the sense of Democratic vulnerability that existed a year ago is not so obvious today. Perhaps it’s the sobering fact that Republicans now have at least partial governing responsibility and that governing is hard; or that since the November votes were counted, President Obama has charted a more moderate and pragmatic course, one that seems more consistent with his winning reelection. Or maybe it’s that the unemployment rate has declined three months in a row by a total of nine-tenths of a percent.

All of this seems to mean that the president no longer looks like a political basket case. When asked to estimate Obama’s reelection chances, political pros cite figures in the range of 60 percent to 70 percent, although with plenty of caveats about unforeseen events.
It certainly isn’t that despondency reigns in the GOP; Republicans have many reasons to feel confident that they will keep the House next year and that their chances of capturing the Senate look very promising. But even those who felt that the Obama White House was showing suicidal tendencies during its first two years now find its new course potentially far more successful.

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The lack of ebullience among Republicans for their 2012 presidential prospects is probably a combination of Obama looking less vulnerable than before and the unprecedented lack of clarity in their own field. Although GOP enthusiasm will likely build once the campaign begins in earnest, it is remarkable that it’s taking so long, given Obama’s polarizing effect among conservatives and Republicans.
With the election still more than 19 months away, there undoubtedly will be an ebb and flow, a series of peaks and valleys of optimism and pessimism. Economic and foreign-policy events will help drive the narrative of just how vulnerable Obama really is, and will be, in November 2012.

But things really have changed since last year.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/cook-report/the-cook-report-obama-s-advantage-20110324
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:52 AM
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1. Romney is the only one so far that is actually qualified
and he was a one term governor who didn't run for re-election because he probably would have lost

the others are a joke

Governor Daniels in Indiana is another one who would be qualified but not sure if he's going to run

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:52 AM
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2. "Maybe we should try proposing something FOR Americans for once?" - Republicons
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 10:55 AM by SpiralHawk
"Nah, that would piss off our billionaire puppetmasters, and boggle the bitty brains of the RepubliSuckers we have hornswoggled via Fox, Rush, Hannity, Beck, and O'Reilly. Besides, it's more profitable to screw the American public while getting on our knees to slobber and smooch the butts of our Fascist Freak Billionaire Boy-Os. Smirk. Sneer."

- Republicons
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:29 AM
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3. 2012
If Obama wins It Is more likely that Democrats make gains In congress or things remain as they are now.

Let's look at history

1948-Truman elected In his own right.Democrats take back the House and Senate

1956-Eisenhower reelected president.Democrats keep Congres after their 1954 takeover

1964-Johnson Elected President In his own right.Democrats Increase their margains In House and Senate

1972-Nixon relected.Democrats keep the hOuse and senate

1980-Reagan defeats Carter.Republicans take back the Senate and make Gains In The House

1984-Reagan relected.Republicans keep the Senate and Democrats keep the house.

1992-Clinton Beats Bush.Democrats keep Congress(Republicans make slight gains In The Senate)

1996-Clinton Relected.Republicans keep Congress after 1994 takeover(Democrats do make some gains In The House)

2004-Bush wins.Republicans Increase their numbers In House and Senate

In no case here has a President been reelcted and the opposition party won a house of congress they didn't already control.

The likely Sceniros for 2012 are these

1:Obama reelected.Democrats keep the Senate and take back the House
2:Obama Relected.Democrats keep the Senate and republicans keep the House.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:34 AM
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4. Yup. Obama has a GREAT chance of winning, despite his low approval here at DU. n/t
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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:46 AM
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6. Not sure about keeping the Senate ...
the GOP has to protect 10 seats .... the Dems have to protect what ... 21 ...
I believe Obama will win ... but may lose the Senate .... not sure about the house ...
the GOP could lose it ....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 12:10 PM
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7. I agree...
with everything you said. But even if Obama wins and the Senate turns Repub. and the House remains Repub., that may even work to his advantage. The Repubs. wouldn't be able to blame anything on the "Dem.-led Senate."
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 12:24 PM
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9. Problem
In Obama's second term If there Is a Republican COngress very little will get done.Expect the tax cuts for the rich to become permeant then Inless Obama after relection just lets them all expire.

The House Is in play for Democrats.The story has been Bohener Is as uppopular now as Pelosi was as Speaker.Considering how they are doing nothing to help the economy.

In the senate apart from ND I think the open seats can be keep.Ben Nelson Is only Democrat who IS sure loser In the senate.

Teabagers could help us by beating Lugar In Indiana,and Snowe In Maine.Scott Brown could be still be beaten.A democrat winning In
Nevada Is still a possiblity.

It's crazy with both historical data and the fact In early 2005 did people think Democrats could take congress In 2006,and In 2009
Did people think Republicans could take the House.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 01:24 PM
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11. sad that he has a low approval. dems should have a big tent
but I guess we're not as open minded as some claim.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 01:39 PM
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12. DU doesn't represent the Dem. party, luckily. n/t
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:42 AM
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5. Heaven knows, I'm no O fan!
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 11:44 AM by FredStembottom
The best plan, seems to me, to be re-elect our cowardly lions in D.C. while focusing on reform of the Democratic Party - combined with big wins at the state level.

That's where the action is! Look at Wisconsin and it's re-awakened electorate. Watch Vermont institute single-payer. Enjoy Republican over-reach in a state near you.

The states are the thing this time.

Our decadent, flatulent, corrupt Dems in D.C. can play catch-up later.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 12:17 PM
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8. "given Obama’s polarizing effect among conservatives and Republicans"
Translation: given the high degree of racism among conservatives and Repukes.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 12:36 PM
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10. K&R- That is why the GOP is running their asshole brigade in 2012...
there will be NO serious contenders on the republican side...In fact, I can't really think of any serious republican contenders at all...they all embraced the teabagger/bigoted/exrtremist/anti-American "philosophy".

mark
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