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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:38 PM
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I can't take it anymore. Every thing this President does is
questioned, not a bad thing, on the tv by the right, over and over again everyday every hour. The part I can't take is that it NEVER happens to the other side. When Bush went to war all the right was interviewed over and over again. Now that Obama has gone in to Libya to help, no troops on the ground, the RIGHT is being interviewed over and over again. The left never gets to speak and I'm so sick of it.

The media even allowed the president to be called a liar by a citizen on national tv but you never heard a word about the big liar GW when he was lying his ass off.

How about all the protests from the left? Anti war, labor protests? They get no attention but if a tea-partier farted the news was all over it.

I am so sick of this world.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:47 PM
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1. Questioning Bush means you hate America.
Sorry, I thought that was common knowledge. :sarcasm:
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:03 PM
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8. Oh yeah, I forgot, but, the media never forgot that!!!!
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:50 PM
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2. The way to deal with this is just to turn the television off. I no longer watch any political
commentary shows. NOT ONE! I don't even watch MSNBC anymore. I used to love O'Donnell and sometimes Rachel. But I can't even stomach them anymore. And forget Schultz. He's a waste of space.

The only talk shows I'll listen to are Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller and Thom Hartmann. It's a shame, too. These are the only folks out there who are using common sense. The only ones!!
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:04 PM
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9. They need their own TV network then we'd have something to watch!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 03:16 PM
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36. Sometimes I watch Rachel but none of the others.
IMO it would be great if we had a haven here still. But we don't.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:50 PM
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3. I have a feeling Libya will straighten itself out
in short order due to the limited meddling by the world. When that happens, repugs will still criticize Obama for "doing it wrong". It's what they do. They are just making themselves irrelevant.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:53 PM
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4. Oh we had plenty of two sided debate in the Bush years
Between the Center-Right and the Far Right.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:05 PM
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10. That's another good point. We never really hear from the
left at all.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:53 PM
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5. CNN just did a segment on the cost of missiles, flying the fighter jets for an hour & on & on.
I don't recall ever seeing a segment like that during the bush disaster.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:05 PM
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11. That's insane. The media is completely in the tank for the repukes
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 05:06 PM by Cali_Democrat
Those motherfuckers were cheer leading the Iraq war that has now ended up costing us well over $1 trillion and thousands of US lives.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:08 PM
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12. And they'll get plenty of help from many on the so-called "Left" who
blame Obama for everything, either forgetting or failing to realize that we have THREE branches of government, not one.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:50 PM
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21. The media is a huge part of the problem in this country.
I put the media right up there in the top three big problems that need to be solved if we are going to get our country back: big money in the electoral process, electronic voting machines & the 'fair & balanced' media.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:55 PM
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6. This is just how the media wants the left to feel.
They want to push the democrats to where they don't want the media onslaught we always see. No matter what the dems do, the media for the right will be on them to shut them down. I'm sick of it too.
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gracchorumspes Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:01 PM
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7. Seems like it's the media, not the world.
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 05:02 PM by gracchorumspes
Frankly, who cares about people who speak loudly but don't say anything? And, most people would rather pay to go to the zoo to see monkeys fling poo at each other than attend a free lecture on quantum physics. I think we should appreciate people on the left who think critically, they provide great insight and wonderful balance against the...yelling.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:16 PM
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13. True, I just wish the rest of the US could see these critical left thinkers on TV.
Rachel is the only one and she has limits I'm sure.
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gracchorumspes Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:34 PM
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14. Me too.
But the rest of the US consists of a lot of people who might simply disagree. Still, it would be much-needed breath of fresh air once and while.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:39 PM
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34. To be fair...
I would rather go to the zoo and watch monkeys fling poo than listen to a physics lecture. But then, I'm a biologist by trade, and animal behavior fascinates me. I'd probably spend more time watching the dolts who go to giggle at the monkeys flinging poo than the monkeys, themselves.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:55 PM
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15. It sure is an orchestrated attack
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 06:18 PM
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16. Its a hugh effort to infiltrate dominate and subjugate us into social, econ slaves
The Greed Level is outta whack....

Brain washing gone wild....

The obscene monies the GOPer trolls have buys them power to fool...

they come to distract, disturb, and destroy whatever is counter to their side...they don't beleve in fairness, a clue as to their nefarious intent.

they mask themselves with code words meant for their base.... they will lose when the Peeps find their vision and smell good coffee
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DemocratAholic Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 06:40 PM
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17. very good point
One thing that is quite interesting about Republicans is how "successful" they have been in framing the debate.

Having grown up with evil Republican parents and siblings, I think I have a pretty good understanding of how their minds operate. The fact is that they think quite differently than most Democrats or Progressives.

They have a different sense of right and wrong. Hypocrisy does not phase them. Anything is fair game as long as it achieves their goals, and they don't care if what they say comes off as logical or fair.

I think the best term that describes their personalities is Machiavellian.

They have managed to infiltrate the mainstream media, and make this kind of personality disorder seem acceptable. Meanwhile, it is such an enigma to Democrats who have an extremely difficult time trying to counter it. It is analogous to trying to have an argument with someone who suffers from schizophrenia.

I think one reason why Obama was successful in the last presidential election was because during the campaign, he was very good at countering this Republican insanity. It requires a lot of skill and talent to do that. You have to be someone who really understands psychology, and it takes a lot of time and thought.

He has had less time while he has been president to address this problem, as I am sure his mind has been focused on other things. Responding to this Republican-tea party insanity is a 24 hour a day job. Meanwhile, all the Progressive organizations that were quite successful before the last presidential election...the DNC, MoveOn, etc., have basically fallen by the wayside these past two years. The Republican "noise machine" has been in full force, with NOTHING to stand in its way, except perhaps for MSNBC. But MSNBC is not a pro-active organization that seeks to spread a message throughout the media. It's just one channel, that doesn't even broadcast news on weekends.

I agree this situation is very discouraging. But we have to look at it logically, and look to those times when we were actually successful in countering this Republican bullshit. It is possible! But it does require very smart leadership and unity to do that, which I am very sorry to say is lacking in the progressive movement right now.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 06:51 PM
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18. As posted here last week "If he walked on water they would say he can't swim"
sorry forgot the poster but that is on the spot.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:06 PM
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20. LOL - that's a good one!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:03 PM
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19. The right knows that Presidents can become popular during invasions
so they are not allowing Obama a moment when the narrative is left alone. They must slam Obama day and night during this mission.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 09:40 PM
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22. The right is organized fairly well and knows how to get to the media.
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 09:41 PM by former9thward
The left, such as it is, is not organized at all. The national and state Democratic party apparatus can't be relied on for this because 1) they are not left and 2) no matter what they are, they exist for electoral victories not to promote progressive causes. Unions can't be relied on because 1) they are not left and 2) they exist for workplace negotiations and confrontations, not to promote progressive causes.
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DemocratAholic Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 04:32 AM
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24. this is a good point
1. Regarding the Party apparatus
I would point out that it is very important who the leadership is. I do firmly believe that the DNC has never been so successful than under Howard Dean, who had a 50 state strategy...and a strategy of constantly addressing the media and countering Republican bullshit.

2. Regarding unions
This is a very sad truth, and we should be careful to be aware of the fact that unions are often fickle in which party they will ultimately support. I will never forget many years ago when Republican George Pataki was running for re-election for governor of NY state, and almost every union was supporting him. Mind you, he was no friend to unions. But right before the election, he cut deals with as many as he could, throwing money at them in order to secure his success in the election. Even the teachers' union, headed by Randi Weingarten, supported him. Within a year (after he was re-elected) they went back to complaining about him again. I think those who really care about the Democratic Party should be very conscious of this fact. I certainly am a supporter of unions and worker's rights, but we should not be fooled into believing that unions are anything but organizations that are simply out for their own (financial) interests, and political philosophy or loyalty to the Democratic Party means nothing to them. They will often turn on the Party faster than you can say..."show me the money."
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:05 PM
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23. Oh yeah, there are always more puke fucks getting
interviewed on the M$M then Dems, That is ALWAYS the case. Watch Democracy Now, you will not see a puke bastard on there getting interviewed.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:23 AM
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25. Pardon me, but did he not ask for the job?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Theodore Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", May 7, 1918

President Obama can handle the criticism, the questioning & attacks, be they fair or unfair. If he cannot, he needs to find another line of work.
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MaeScott Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:27 AM
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26. K and R
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:35 AM
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27. R's are the party most beholding to corporations...
what is the media...nothing more than a bunch of corporations. It's easy to see why they go to RW goomers, it is a way to suppress discussion and other points of view.

Most R's these days don't even recognize their party any more, it has been through so many convolutions and changes baseline R's are wondering what the hell happened, but because they have been R's so long, they distrust D's, so they stumble on. Virtually every R I know is wondering quietly what the hell happened. The Radical Right has taken over the party, and rational R's don't have a clue how to get it back on track. The party that was synonymous with fiscal responsibility has led the economy over the cliff...once the economy was ruined, they turned to social change.

The other day, I was in a debate with an R, that stated, "I don't have a problem with Obama being black, I'm with the party of Lincoln, we freed the slaves."

My answer, "Yeah, right, then why are Republicans trying to bring slavery back in WI, ME, OH, MI...then the rest of the country?"

That ended the conversation.

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 07:55 AM
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28. Obviously, Obama is not going to ...
heal the divide. Mainly, because he's afraid to.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 08:41 AM
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29. "The left" has been interviewed:





























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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:49 PM
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30. I recall the same feeling during the Clinton years
It was non-stop. The media was biased, the attacks vicious and continuous. Both Bill and Hillary were wounded by the constant attacks. The smears became mainstream.

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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:33 PM
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32. I remember it that way, too.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-11 02:35 PM by GoCubsGo
But, I think it's worse this time around. And, I don't remember the Left being quite so hard on him as they are on the current President.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:51 PM
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31. k&r
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:37 PM
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33. I am sick and tired of the rw leaders attacking the President on TV and in the papers when it comes
to foreign affairs. Especially because the left was given soooo much grief when we questioned Bush "during a time of war".

Hey - we are still at war, and we even have more wars than bush had. Damn them for being so hypocritical.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:43 PM
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35. And we don't have a haven here anymore either.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-11 02:44 PM by DevonRex
We have to go elsewhere for that.
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