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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:08 PM
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NATO appears to have stopped attacking Gaddaffi ground forces
per reports on the ground in Libya. This is allowing Qs troops to reinforce and mass for attacks, as well as emboldening Q. Sources are reporting that Q's troops are currently massing outside the city of Az Zintan and a massacre is imminent. NATO is doing nothing.

I was against getting involved in Libya. But if we're going to get involved then shouldn't we do it right? A complete lack of leadership by all the coalition countries, caving in to Turkey like this.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:11 PM
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1. Yes Sir, General Woolldog!
Edited on Tue Mar-29-11 06:13 PM by FrenchieCat
Supreme Allied Commander of ? :patriot:

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:45 PM
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9. .
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:48 PM
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10. There's nothing wrong with being an armchair general
I've seen internet forum posters with a lot of expertise in military tactics and strategies. Hell, I bet some of them could command their own fricken armies.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:57 PM
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11. I'm definitely not a general,
and don't imagine myself to be one.

I was merely passing on information. And I thought some on the board might appreciate it.

I understood before I posted that there's a large contingent on DU who simply want the board to be an echo chamber of administration talking points, rather than a place to intelligently and critcally discuss or comment on the issues of the day. The OP was not directed to them.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 07:35 PM
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12. I know. I'm just having little fun
I think you're right in that NATO is changing it's strategy to accommodate Turkey. Is that the right thing? I have no idea. But it's just another example of why complicated military alliances like NATO should only be used when a member country is under attack.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 10:59 PM
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14. Could be because the torch hasn't officially been passed yet.
As chimpy used to say, in other words, it's still a US led air invasion. NATO and us haven't worked out all the details yet - still arguing over little details (like weapons, who's gets to use them and what to shoot at and what not to shoot at - stuff like that).
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:31 PM
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2. The ground is now prepped for the ground forces that Obama promised we weren't sending in and
now we are told might be a necessity.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:34 PM
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3. we can bomb Q's tanks and troops from the air
and it will be effective. The only thing missing is the political will.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:36 PM
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4. It still doesn't change the fact that we were told today that the Marines might have to put boots on
the ground.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:36 PM
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5. we were?
I missed that.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:39 PM
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6. Yep, here you go
Speaking to members of Congress today, Adm. James Stavridis admitted that, while allied forces were not yet considering the deployment of troops on the ground in Libya, it was a possibility.

This could run counter to President Barack Obama's pledge that no U.S. soldiers would set foot on the ground in the embattled country, where the decades-long leadership of Col. Muammar Gaddafi has come under an intense challenge from civilian protesters.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/29/nato-may-order-ground-forces-into-libya-u-s-admiral-admits/
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:41 PM
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7. oh geez,
I was hoping you were just making that up. :banghead:

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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 06:44 PM
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8. Sorry, but I wasn't. The Marines have an Expeditionary force waiting offshore off roughly 1200. n/...
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:05 PM
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15. Yeah, but once all the good targets are gone, it gets a little tricky.
Libya only has about 6.3 million people - it's going to take some boots on the ground to identify the remaining live targets. Might have to put red x's on them in case they get wounded and try to hide in hospitals or go to their grandma's house or try to escape to Egypt.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:26 PM
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16. As per the Washington Post article yesterday,
Edited on Wed Mar-30-11 12:36 PM by amandabeech
we have been using air to ground attack aircraft, the AC-130 and the A-10 Warthog.

The British have been using Tornadoes which I gather do the same job as the Warthogs. I don't know what the French are doing.

On edit: I have vehemently opposed this war from the beginning because I thought that we would end up doing much, much more than was originally discussed.

Now that we're in this thing to keep people from being massacred, we may actually have to do what we have said that we'd do. If massacre is imminent, then NATO or the alternative coalition needs to do something effective immediately. Sometimes you just have to follow through on your promises, or no one will believe you.

This is just the kind of problem that I thought we should avoid by staying out of it and let the other usual suspects take care of it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 08:48 PM
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13. Thanks for another update, Debbie Downer!
Preeeeesh.
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