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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:38 AM
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Even Republicans start to balk at a culture-war shutdown (updated)
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 08:45 AM by ProSense
EVEN REPUBLICANS START TO BALK AT A CULTURE-WAR SHUTDOWN....

Perhaps the biggest political danger for congressional Republicans isn't just shutting down the government, it's shutting down the government for a ridiculous reason that the American mainstream will find absurd.

One of the major sticking points in negotiations remains the GOP demand to cut off funding for Planned Parenthood. Talk of this being about abortion isn't quite right -- Planned Parenthood is already prohibited from using public funds to terminate pregnancies, and has been for many years. What we're talking about here is Republicans balking at access to contraception, family planning services, pap smears, and cancer screenings.

All of a sudden, a few conservative Republicans are saying this just isn't worth shutting the government down over.

Republicans should "move on" from insisting on defunding Planned Parenthood in a 2011 spending bill, a Republican senator said Friday.

With less than 24 hours to go until a shutdown, Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) suggested that a rider to defund Planned Parenthood, a key sticking point in reaching an agreement, was expendable.

" just need to recognize," Toomey said on MSNBC. "We should aggressively go for everything we can get and move on."

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) -- who like Toomey, strongly opposes abortion rights -- has also urged House Republicans to drop the Planned Parenthood rider.

Last night on CNN, even Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), one of Congress' most strident opponents of abortion rights, was asked whether it makes sense to give up the culture-war riders. Remarkably, Bachmann said she supports having "a clean bill."

This isn't what House GOP leaders were hoping for at this stage in the process. Democrats spent much of yesterday arguing that Republicans would rather fight over hot-button social issues than keep the government running. These remarks from Toomey, Coburn, and Bachmann -- not a moderate in the bunch -- only help reinforce the accuracy of the Democratic message.

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Updated to add this from Greg Sargent:

* The government shutdown, made simple: Ryan Grim has the lede of the day:

    The United States government is on the verge of shutting down over a dispute about subsidized pap smears, according to sources familiar with the budget negotiations.







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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:44 AM
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1. When nutso Toomey and Coburn are the voices of reason, the Rethugs are truly extreme and scary.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:47 AM
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2. No kidding. n/t
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:43 PM
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6. Was just thinking the same thing. Even Bachman saying what she said sounds "reasonable." Up is down.
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:54 AM
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3. Why does it feel like we are being played here?
I will hold my judgment until I see the final spending cut number they agreed on, but I am willing to bet that it will be in the neighborhood of 100 Billion. It seems that the riders are a distraction only, so when the final budget will come out, we will all be so grateful that Planned Parenthood will still be funded, the EPA won't be gutted, etc, that we won't even blink at the 100 billion that will be cut.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 10:02 AM
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4. Yeah,
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 10:03 AM by ProSense
at this point, the dollar amount shouldn't be going up. What would be the point of adding more cuts to counter Republicans' attempt to gut agencies?

:hi:

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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:37 PM
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5. Gut all federal programs in the districts of those who support such
massive federal cuts on the grounds the citizens in those area agreed to such cuts when the elected their representatives.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:46 PM
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7. Just like Walker demonstrated in WI, it's ideological overreach.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:08 PM
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8. Jeebus. Toomey talking sense? I'm looking for the Four Horsemen....n/t
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