I think we have been played

[Nancy Waterman]

Now that the noisy distraction of fearing a government shutdown over Planned Parenthood and the EPA is over, people will start to look at what has been cut and all of the jobs that will be lost because of those cuts. What no one has been talking about is that all of these cuts are really dangerous for our fragile economy at this point. This is likely what we will start hearing now that the big noise has been removed. The GOP are really shrewd. I think we have been played, big time! They get to shrink government, screw up the economy, and help themselves politically when Obama gets blamed for the double dip that these policies might create.

[doc03]

1. I would hate to have Democrats negotiate my labor

contract. The Republicans play the old bait and switch with PP and the EPA and extract another $5 billion from the Democrats..

[Armstead]

2. I can't remember the last time we haven't been played

It's become standard operating procedure

[KoKo]

20. . Both MSNBC and CNBC all afternoon had Dems out there saying they Gave Repugs 78% of What they Want

They kept using that figure. Our Dems kept saying that they just "wouldn't give up 'The Rights of Women to Health Care." It seemed designed to make it seem they were standing up for Women...but if you give away 78% to Repugs (calling it a compromise) and are proud of it...but use "Womens Health" as your last stand....then it demeans women and makes you look like a sell out.

I thought it was disgusting the way they were proud of the huge 78% COMPROMISE...and the last bit was to throw a bone to WOMEN?...Women Voters? :wtf: is in that 78% that they gave to the Repugs? Is it Head Start, Education Funding,Funding for Kids Lunches and Meals on Wheels for Seniors that they cut so they could do a big "slap on their back" standing firm for Women's Health Care and Birth Control?????

What else will they and did they already give away, if they hold women so cheap..to be used as a pawn of last resort..UGH!

[Carni]

21. No kidding! eom

[sadbear]

3. It's difficult to negotiate with terrorists

But I guess the Democrats didn't want the country sacrificed if they didn't meet the republicans' demands.

[Nancy Waterman]

6. It is exactly like negotiating with terrorists

Or dealing with some kind of mafia bullies.
The GOP's MO is extortion. They threaten to destroy the things the
Democrats want to protect unless their demands are met. but I realized tonight,
there was also the distraction used to keep us from looking at what they were really doing.
No one even knows yet what has been cut. Only the few things that we know have not been cut.

[Hissyspit]

4. Bush wars and tax cuts and recession add terrifically to our debt.

And tax cuts for wealthiest and ending the wars and real tax reform and cuts from corporate welfare are off the table, and the Rethugs control the message.

Of course we've been played. It's Shock Doctrine continuing. No end in sight.

[mike_c]

16. those haven't been Bush's wars since 2008....

And Obama renegotiated tax cuts for the rich all over again.

[JoePhilly]

22. Now Obama was President in 2008 ... who knew??

[bbgrunt]

5. so once again, we love the kabuki; embrace the matrix, my friend.

[girl gone mad]

7. k & r

[craigmatic]

8. Yeah pretty much. Doing shit like this should be reseved for when the economy is good.

[golfguru]

9. How is the 3rd war in Libya going to create jobs?

Our war mongering has gone berserk. We spend more on military
than any other country by far. With $1600 BILLION yearly budget deficits
the military should the first to be cut.

[Hatchling]

10. The Poverty Draft.

All those young men and women who cannot find jobs elsewhere will enlist. "Voluntarily" of course.

[golfguru]

11. Would'nt it be far cheaper to run another WPA

project to employ those young people? And far more useful
& productive? They might actually learn a useful trade on top.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. ?

To do what?

[customerserviceguy]

12. Reminds me of the ancient Chinese torture

called "Death of a Thousand Cuts". Each one is not fatal in itself, but they all add up.

[KoKo]

19. +1

[andym]

14. GOP won last Fall and Winter

when the budget wasn't dealt with. The damage to the economy from the cutbacks will slow the recovery and give the GOP every chance to collect both chambers and the Presidency.

This compromise is big mistake, but it was really too late. The tea partiers would have like to shut the government down, on their way to downsizing it back to the 19th century.

[Jakes Progress]

15. Yep. Another one gets it.

[southernyankeebelle]

17. These cuts are going to hurt the working people. Obama caved and beware of Ryan's plan to

destroy the safety net.

[vaberella]

18. In actuality this has been talked about. "cuts are really dangerous for our fragile economy"q

But they were made irrelevant and 20 times problems in the face of a government shut down.

[treestar]

23. If the government shut down, it would have been so much worse

If that were the Repukes real goal, they just didn't have to agree.

[Lorien]

24. If Obama gets blamed he'll deserve it. He could have used his bully pulpit

to turn America against the GOP. Instead he just parroted their talking points.

[KoKo]

25. Agree...we were told to vote for him because of his "unique experience."

Instead...the "unique experience" seems to be something that he now denies he ever gave speeches about...even when those speeches are on record.

I have no idea what to think about him at this point. :eyes:

[Hawkowl]

26. I know what to think

It is quite obvious what to think about Obama. If you separate Obama the speech maker from Obama the policy maker, there is no doubt about who and what he is.

[Logical]

27. I agree, their plan all along! n-t