Here's something teabaggers wanted, but didn't get

[ProSense]

VIDEO: Tea Partiers Clamor For A Government Shutdown; Will Boehner Cater To Their Demands?

CNN Poll: Most say govt. shutdown bad; Tea Party disagrees

Will Republican Teabaggers Force Boehner Into Shutting Down The Government?

Shut 'er Down - pics

[Davis_X_Machina]

1. Most of DU wanted the shutdown too...

....which ought to make one think -- not that one will, not here.

[Sherman A1]

17. Really?

You have accurate polling data or can you read minds?

[RichGirl]

19. I didn't....

I don't know of anyone who did.

[bigwillq]

20. Got a link to support that claim?

:shrug:

[Very_Boring_Name]

27. I think he's referring to a poll I did yesterday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x846243

[bigwillq]

30. Yes, because 50 folks who voted in a poll are a majority.

OK.

[Trajan]

2. Oh .... we gave them the family jewels ...

And they didnt burn down the orphanage ?

Wow ... WINNING ?????

[high density]

4. I'm really hoping they were able to get some more tax cuts for the top 1% in there

That would be really great.

[ProSense]

7. Missing

the point. Kerry:

Representative Ron Paul of Texas said “I don’t think it would hurt one bit: and that “life would go on without the Federal government”

They don't care.

[KeepItReal]

3. Those teaparty guys represent the ultimate straw man

The victory here is for the "shrink the Government to size where you can drown it in a bathtub" types like Grover Norquist.

Remember him? That's who this fight is supposed to be *against*. His is the REAL REPUBLICAN IDEOLOGY.

Cutting govt. spending in a recession is only gonna cost government services and jobs.

[andym]

5. I agree. Tea Party wanted the shutdown

for ideological reasons.
It makes sense from their perspective:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x845476

[customerserviceguy]

6. They'll have plenty more opportunities

For starters, tonight's deal only postponed this happening for a short while. Also, there will surely be a vote on raising the debt ceiling, even if we gave in 100% to their demands.

They're like a magician, he directs you to what's in his left hand, while his right hand is actually doing the 'trick'.

[DCBob]

21. Yes they do but I think they are going to cave on the debt ceiling..

because if we hit the debt ceiling we would begin to default on financial obligations which would adversely affect bonds, the dollar, the stock market and ultimately both domestic and international economy... and investor's portfolios.. including rich Republicans.. and of course we cant have that.

[vroomvroom]

8. Sad to think that we are now seeing it as 'What they didn't get'

when the real question is why democrats got nothing.

Teabaggers and gop are fighting over how fat they got and why the couldnt get more from this weak democrat party.

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. So Obama outsmarted them, gave them everything without shutting down

the government. What a guy!

[vroomvroom]

10. 3D Chess at Work Again!! nt

[Pryderi]

11. It's called winning through surrender. n/t

[ProSense]

13. No, it's called

not trying to spin everything as a win for Republicans.

That's what they have the media for.

[ClassWarrior]

16. But what when everything IS a win for Rape-Publicans? And a loss for the majority of the people?

Buh-bye to everything FDR and LBJ built.

:sigh:

NGU.

[RandomKoolzip]

26. It doesn't need to be spun, ProSense. This WAS a win for the republicans.

[ProSense]

12. What? Here's

they wanted, but didn't get.

The House passed the bill to gut the EPA. It failed in the Senate.

They really wanted these.

Kerry

<...>

Start with the fact that they’re going to shut down the government if we don’t prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from regulating greenhouse gases which the Supreme Court of the United States – all those Justices appointed by Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 – said the EPA has to do.

Folks, we had that debate. It’s fresh in our minds. This week the Senate debated Senator McConnell’s amendment to cut off EPA’s authority under the Clean Air Act. It lost. Three other amendments with similar approaches had up or down votes - each one of them failed. The process worked – amendments were debated and votes were counted. So now, it’s do it or we’ll shut down the government. I don’t remember a lot of Americans voting for dirtier air – or water they can’t drink – or longer droughts for farmers – but now they’re saying the government’s going to be shut down if we don’t handcuff the EPA. We’ve been here before. In December 1995, one of the reasons that the federal government shutdown was the Republican attempts to include a “….excessive number of anti-environmental riders.” And here we go again. The Budget Committee Chairman, Senator Conrad, reports that last night in the middle of the night, the other side put mountaintop mining riders on the table. What’s that have to do with reducing the deficit?

<...>

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. Absurd

[ProSense]

15. No

absurd is trying to claim Bachmann and Boehner outsmarted Democrats when the GOP caved.

[BklnDem75]

18. It's pretty predictable

Any cut was gonna be viewed as caving in.

[Fearless]

22. Oh so in exchange for giving them everything they wanted we gave them everything they wanted?

Give me a break. This is just a stupid right wing meme. If it came, as it did to giving them everything they wanted or shutting down, we should've shut down. Of course, the do-nothing Democratic Party caved as usual.

[Mass]

23. So, in exchange, we give the GOP more than they asked at the beginning?

Happy the shutdown was avoided, but this should tell us a lot about the ability of our leaders.

BTW, this shows they are better at PR than we are.

[Bluenorthwest]

24. They are the Republicans. There is no Tea Party.

Stop playing their hand for them. You present Democrats, Republicans, and Tea Baggers constantly. This is a technique that makes the Republicans look sane.
The Republicans got their way. No straw needed. The GOP got what it wanted, and there is no Tea Party.

[treestar]

25. Their leader Boehner caved

He betrayed them! He broke promises to them!

Why do the Democrats always get what they want?

Boner should have started at demanding cuts of the entire welfare state! He should have shut down the welfare state and social security! Instead he caved and they are still there!

They will never vote for the Boner for President now! They need a leader who stands up for principles! Maybe Ron Paul will do it!

[The Backlash Cometh]

28. Thanks.

[Recursion]

29. If you can keep your nausea down, read Free Republic's front page

Reid is an evil genius, Boehner a contemptible RINO coward for agreeing to the $21 billion in spending the Democrats held firm on.

Activists always feel this way, on either side.