Dana Milbank (on msnbc): The president is moving toward the deficit commission plan...

[polichick]

...and it's up to Congressional Dems to pull him to the left.

Yikes!

[rufus dog]

1. Yeah he looked a bit depressed too!

Imagine that a Repuke Hack trying to figure out a way to make a negative comment about a Dem.

[polichick]

2. What was the other guy's name? He was bummed too - and got Cenk down.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

3. That's the plan. Demoralize the Democratic base so they turn on the president.

And viola! You got a Republican/Teabagger-controlled House, Senate and Executive Branch.

[polichick]

5. The other guest was a Dem - the discussion was about words vs action

[FrenchieCat]

29. Don't forget "signals".........

His words just now, vs. the mysterious Milbank described "signals" vs. Action folks will be sitting on their asses w/t mouth wide open while waiting.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

35. Right. Not all Dems are in our corner. DU has proved this. Dems can be Debbie Downers.

[JoePhilly]

30. +100000

[eleny]

45. David Sirota

[flpoljunkie]

4. Dana Milbank is a smarmy prick who likes to make trouble. Ignore him.

[polichick]

Both he and the other guest (Dem, didn't catch name) thought the WH...

...has been moving toward Simpson Bowles and it'll take a big pull from the left to change that.

[Shiver]

23. Krugman thinks otherwise.

He said there was 'Hardly any Simpson-Bowles' in the speech.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/13/the-budget-...

[polichick]

28. That's what they were saying - that the prez was presenting a Dem vision...

...but behind the scenes the WH is moving right. "Talking like a Dem and acting like a Republican - again."

[villager]

33. Well, it's always the behind-the-scenes stuff -- and not the speeches -- that counts

n/t

[flpoljunkie]

32. David Sirota is also a prick who never seems to approve of anything Obama does.

[polichick]

34. I really hope it's not true, but this isn't the first time I've heard the WH is moving...

...toward that plan - Van Hollen talked about it at the Center for American Progress yesterday.

[flpoljunkie]

39. President Obama is a pragmatic liberal who must work with the Congress he has--not the

Congress he or we would like.

I give him great props for his speech today. The Republicans went through the roof. That tells you it was a very effective speech.

Which makes me wonder if the Republicans will go ahead and pass the Ryan budget plan tomorrow. This could get interesting.

[polichick]

40. Words are one thing - they were fine - but I've learned not to trust that...

...his actions will match his words.

Yes, it WILL be interesting to see what Republicans do next!

[gateley]

6. I don't know what that means -- could you explain? Thanks. nt

[polichick]

8. They were talking about the prez "talking like a Dem but acting like a Republican"...

...both guests seemed to think that the WH has been signaling that it will support the Simpson Bowles plan.

[gateley]

19. "Signaling" -- hmmmm. We'll have to see but we need to make our voices

heard before any action is taken either way.

Thanks. :hi:

[polichick]

21. That's right - we'll have to make some calls!

[JTFrog]

7. Yea, Olberman refused to let the guy come back on his show for a reason. n/t

[Blaukraut]

9. The entire segment looked awfully staged to me

At the start of the show Cenk Uygur was really pleased with the speech, or so he said. I told my hubby to watch him change his mind before the show is over. Lo and behold, starting with Bernie Sanders, he asked leading questions until he got an answer he wanted to hear: The speech was good, but not specific enough, and Obama was going to go with the Simpson Bowles plan.(Milbank's baseless claim). I've watched Cenk enough to notice the pattern. By the end of the show, he'll be back to criticizing Obama fullthroatedly.

[polichick]

11. Who was the Dem guest - he seemed concerned too.

[Blaukraut]

13. David Sirota. n/t

[vaberella]

15. Another clown. n/t

[polichick]

18. That's it - thanks!

[vaberella]

12. Yeah...that Sirota guy also was a bit clowny. Ugh. n/t

[vaberella]

10. Dude you're listening to MSBNC? I gave up on those fools.

I'm waiting for Tweety.

[polichick]

14. Tweety is on msnbc.

[vaberella]

17. I know. I meant that you should give up on the Cenk show---whatever.

That's what I dumped and I'm not watching anything until Tweety.

[MercuryRepeater]

16. did Milbank provide any quotes supporting this or are we just supposed to trust him?

[polichick]

20. Just said that the WH has been signaling a move toward that plan...

Sirota didn't disagree - that's why Cenk said he was getting bummed.

[MercuryRepeater]

24. smoke signals...subliminal messages...wink, wink

[polichick]

26. It was about what they were "signaling" to reporters - who knows.

[FrenchieCat]

22. This makes me laugh!

A skeptic/Cynic waiting for Dana Milbank and David Sirota to "Cheer" them up
about anything said by Pres. Barack Obama! *snort* :rofl:

[polichick]

25. Do you know that the WH hasn't been signaling a move toward the Simpson Bowles plan?

[FrenchieCat]

27. Hell, when he talks, it doesn't mean anything......

so why would a (so-called) "signal" be taken so seriously
to trump his direct words?

Really this is funny...in a sad way; but funny nevertheless.

[JoePhilly]

31. +100

[NorthCarolina]

36. My take was that the Debt comission report would be Obama's starting point for negotiations. nt

[polichick]

37. If he doesn't start from the left of that, we're in trouble...

It's crazy to start with a bipartisan thing like that and move right!

[FrenchieCat]

38. He already told you where he was starting from......

We're only in trouble if folks continue to shit on this President
just because they can come up with an excuse to do so.

[NorthCarolina]

42. Yes he did, he said he would draw heavily from Simpson-Bowles.

Doesn't that kind of imply that is where his starting point is?

[FrenchieCat]

43. No, it doesn't....

Simpson-Bowles had many recommendations....such as cutting defense.

So no.....

We know what you want; Paul Ryan's proposal....
and spiting this President.
is Medicare really worth so little to you?

[NorthCarolina]

46. Yeah, that's what I want all right.

:eyes: If anything, that's what YOU want, but I'm sure you will settle for Simpson-Bowles for the time being.

[dennis4868]

41. This Hyperspeculation process at DU!

1.Read the day's headlines (in this case Obama's speech)
2.Determine a spin that characterizes the President and his administration in the worst possible light.
3.If such a spin does not exist, postulate what the President and his administration's response will be. Make sure that it is as negative as possible, even if it contradicts his past behavior.
4.Write endless blogs on how the President has once again sold his "base" down the river and kicked hippies in the teeth (after punching them, of course.) It is not necessary for him to actually have done this. Your prediction that he WILL do this is sufficient.
5.When what you predicted turns out to be quite wrong, ignore that and focus on the next day's news item. No point in issuing a mea culpa. Just raise a fuss about something new and nobody will notice.
6.Lather, rinse and repeat.

[Champion Jack]

44. +1,000,000,000