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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:20 PM
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Obama Deficit Speech: Lots of Flowery Talk About a Major Distraction
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 07:21 PM by ProudDad
Barack Obama's deficit address was a classic piece of Washington Kabuki. Long on rhetoric but sparse in detail, it was replete with impossible-to-fulfill promises while kicking the stickiest issues down the road, perhaps until some period of idealized comity arises in the future.

Obama pledged to cut $4 trillion from the projected deficit over the next 12 years. “To meet our fiscal challenge, we will need to make reforms,” he said. “We will all need to make sacrifices.” Which means $3 dollars in spending cuts (and “interest savings”) for every dollar raised by cutting coporate tax loopholes and restoring the Clinton-era rates on the wealthiest Americans.

http://www.alternet.org/news/150596/obama_deficit_speech%3A_lots_of_flowery_talk_about_a_major_distraction_/?page=entire



Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:21 PM
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1. Unrec, per usual.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:03 AM
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32. That's all I do too. Wow...I've never unrec'd someone so much. n/t
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:23 PM
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4. K&R
I'll give it a rec.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:28 PM
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:25 PM
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5. -1
I've been frustrated the past couple of weeks but this was a breath of fresh air.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:27 PM
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6. This would be a better breath of fresh air...
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:28 PM
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7. .


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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:29 PM
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9. My, how informative...
:rofl: :eyes:
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:41 AM
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27. DDU----Debbie Downer Underground
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 07:40 PM
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11. So you think the Ryan Budget is a "distraction?" LOL
Unrec.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:08 PM
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12. I'd prefer he restore tax rates to 1980 before Reagan cut them, so Jan 1980
& K&R
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:10 PM
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13. Where was that announcement of Social Security and Medicare cuts ... ???
Oh wait, that did not happen.

And the fake outrage machine simply moves on.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:46 PM
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16. Unrec
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:12 PM
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19. and if he got into 'detail', you would complain it was boring


a well deserved healthy Unrec.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:45 PM
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21. Unrec for weaksauce.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:01 PM
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22. Un. nt
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:13 PM
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24. Yawn. Nothing new here. Unrec.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:20 AM
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26. Hey, at least you didn't throw in "corporate capitalist masters" this time.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 01:21 AM by Starbucks Anarchist
That's like your "Margaritaville."
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:21 PM
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43. Nope, just Obama's bosses... (n/t)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:47 AM
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28. Hey, stop throwing reality into the mix - people here are still mesmerized by...
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:52 AM by polichick
...all that sweet talk.

While the prez did indeed speak about Democratic values, he has adopted the right-wing story about the deficit. We need a progressive caucus in the Senate to match the one in the House - and both will need to fight hard to pull negotiations to the left.

On edit: If the WH is not putting a carbon tax on the table, they really aren't serious.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:56 AM
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30. That's certainly what it looks like anyway.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:56 AM
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31. A democratic White House can't have reps on a message board called "Democratic Underground"?
I'll bet the Koch Bros. employees who work the internet are glad to hear that, since we know they're spreading the $$$ around in all sorts of unconventional places. ;)
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:04 AM
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34. DUzy! I love when I get the chance to say that.
Although..I don't know if I"m using it properly.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:49 AM
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41. This latest escapade didn't end quite the way it was intended. And for
that, I'm grateful. They're actually complaining about "Democrats", on a site called "Democratic" Underground, defending a "Democratic" White House? That, in itself, deserves a DUzy! :hi:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:03 AM
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33. Just imagine. Democrats defending this Democratic President against petty, manufactured smears...
on the Democratic Underground. The horror...
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:05 AM
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35. Dude... I believe the opertiave word of Democratic Underground is Democratic - Democrat.
So yeah...it comes part and parcel. If you don't like, there's always freeperville. They'll be happy to join your bandwagon.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:08 AM
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36. I hope that you aren't too proud of what you wrote. It isn't very factual or logical.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:11 AM
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37. i wouldn't be too proud about this thread.
unrec
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:21 AM
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38. Wow! A swiss cheese thread.
More deletions than responses.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:19 AM
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42. That is due to the rampant incivility of posters in GDP.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:23 PM
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45. +1
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:24 AM
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39. Where were the MAJOR cuts to Social Security and Medicare???
That was the breathless prediction. Followed with all manner of screaming and moaning and gnashing of teeth.

But it did not happen.

And the search for a new reason to scream continues ... talk about smoke and mirrors.

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:28 PM
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46. "putting them on the table"
While leaving OFF THE TABLE

...Universal Single-Payer Health Care...

...The National Security State and Obama's expanding GWOT and active wars...

...Any questioning of the war machine and the fact that IT'S THE SOURCE OF THE DEFICIT...

...Why he's sucking up to Big Business -- the ones who CREATED and BENEFITED -- and dissing Unions by his non-presence...

And most of all that bullshit pretense that "everyone has to give up something"!

SHIT...we the poor, the Working Class, the elderly on Social Security and Medicare, the Peacemakers have been doing NOTHING BUT LOSING for more than 35 years -- Democrat or Republican governments --

And it's about time we start WINNING SOMETHING!!!

Shit!!!
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:27 AM
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40. ProudUnrecer
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