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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:45 PM
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An primary challenge is a nonissue
which sane people already knew.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-doesnt-need-to-worry-about.html

"It shouldn't come as any particular surprise but Barack Obama doesn't need to worry about a primary challenge next year- in Iowa or anywhere else for that matter."

And this, "Obama's immunity to a primary challenge comes across in his national polling too. Our poll for Daily Kos this week found his approval numbers with Democrats nationwide almost identical to the ones in Iowa- a 79/15 spread. 72% of Democrats consider him ideologically to be 'about right' and the ones who do have a problem with him are split almost evenly between thinking he's too conservative (13%) and thinking he's too liberal (11%). This divide is what makes a potential primary challenge to Obama even more unlikely- since the Democrats who don't like him have very different reasons for that unhappiness it would be difficult for any single primary challenger to Obama to unite all the dissidents behind them."

Now can we put this to rest along with the racists birth certificate bullsh&t?
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:47 PM
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1. A primar...
Gramer please.:beer:
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:51 PM
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3. ?
excuse me?
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:55 PM
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6. I spelled grammar incorectly.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:04 PM
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8. OMG... wtf?
having graded standardized essay exams from a couple of states for the last week as a temp.... that made my soul hurt. I don't even have a soul.

A (not an) primary challenge is a nonissue (comma) which sane people already knew.

I think the hyphen after year is not correct.

"And this," - I'm not sure that's correct either.

There should be a comma after the word "polling" in the next sentence.

The next sentence contains an questionable hyphen.

"consider him ideologically to be" is awkward. It should something more like "72% of Democrats consider him to be 'about right' ideologically, and the ones who do have a problem with him are split almost evenly between thinking he's too conservative (13%) and thinking he's too liberal (11%)." There might be some concern about using a numerically represented number (vs. a number that is spelled out) to begin a sentence).

"This divide is what makes a potential primary challenge to Obama even more unlikely- since the Democrats who don't like him have very different reasons for that unhappiness it would be difficult for any single primary challenger to Obama to unite all the dissidents behind them."

The misplaced hyphen in the sentence "This divide is what makes a potential primary challenge to Obama even more unlikely- since the Democrats..." leads me to believe that this is a poorly edited bit of propaganda. The hyphen should be a period, instead. The next sentence should start with the capitalized word "since". There should be a comma after the word "unhappiness".

The next part of this post consists of the following material "Now can we put this to rest along with the racists birth certificate bullsh&t?" There should be a comma after the word "now".

I give this post a zero (0), and an unrec.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:07 PM
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11. Since you're not at work now, perhaps you should lighten up a bit & relax ;) n/t
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:11 PM
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14. They are who we thought they were
thanks for the support and the link.

I apologize the grammatical errors, but people could click on link. Positive POTUS threads are hard to take for some people I guess:shrug: :shrug: illegal codemakeRemote('duboard.php?az=emotion_table')
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:01 PM
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28. it's taboo to say, but folks are working hard to campaign against Dems
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:13 PM
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15. Sorry. In this new bipartisan economy, my Ph.D from Berkeley
is only worth $11/hour grading Federally mandated standardized exams. No lightening up for me! Besides... comfortable shoes seem to be in short supply in Washington, D.C.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:08 PM
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12. I'm sure YOU have other reasons besides grammar
to unrec. But thanks for the grammar class. Copying and pasting can be a bytch sometimes.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:59 PM
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27. rock on, with your bad wannabe editor self...
:rofl:
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:23 PM
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42. Yeah, but "An primary"?
:cry:
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:50 PM
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2. And in the polls: Obama vs. Republicans

Obama is doing REALLY good so far!

Scroll the whole page on the link below to see all the individual head to head match ups:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html


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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:53 PM
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4. Great
Thx for the link
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:25 PM
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23. You're welcome :) n/t
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:05 PM
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9. doing really good
-1 for vague informal language
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:10 PM
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13. Who appointed you a DU grammar policeman? Back off! n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:14 PM
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:54 PM
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5. Are you saying that people who hoped Obama would be challenged are
insane racists? Just want to be sure I catch your drift...
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:01 PM
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7. you've captured the gist of it
I wonder if people like the OP really think that this sort of thing somehow helps Obama...
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:18 PM
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20. I'm sure a primary challenge
will not help President Obama.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:21 PM
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21. There would be only 'one' benefit from having a challenger

Obama would receive more/extra TV air time and attention, like when the battle between Obama and Hillary was going on during 2008.
But other than that there would not be any other positives to a primary challenge.



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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:23 PM
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22. it's wonderful
that you think that...
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:15 PM
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18. Of course not
and I'm sure they (democrats calling for primary)would vehemently state that they are not racists.But I do believe that birthers are insane racists and I do not apologize for feeling that way.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:07 PM
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10. The Lesser Of Two Evils
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 09:17 PM by Kalun D
Is the only choice we have thanks to our corporate oligarchy.

Too bad we can't get a real candidate in there instead of this corporate bagman.

and please keep counting your chickens while there's still two years to go. Who knows what might happen if he continues for another 2 years making the rich richer and screwing the workers.

the only poll to look at is approval vs. disapproval and he's in the negative at this point. Wonder what would happen if we had viable opposition like Grayson, and he got favorable coverage from the mainstream media. Like that's going to happen in this corporatocracy. You either tow the line or you are out in a heartbeat like Dean.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

RCP Average 4/7 - 4/19 -- approve-45.3 disapprove-50.0 spread-4.7
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:15 PM
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17. is still EVIL
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:02 PM
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29. yes, the dems are evil, you win.
:eyes:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:30 PM
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49. I'm going to vote for Barack HuSatan Obama!
muaaahahahaha!
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:17 AM
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39. is the only path to curving the political spectrum
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:16 PM
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19. Your Equation
Of real democrats wanting a man of the people candidate that's not totally owned by the predatory corporations

with the birther garbage

is total and complete bullsh*t.

Your post is crap

UNREC
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:42 PM
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24. Nader is beginning to speak up again. That is not a good sign.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:46 PM
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25. You see him 2?
lol. People are so funny!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:49 PM
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26. Here is Nader's piece posted on the DU yesterday:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:07 PM
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30. yet he's still a shitheel, who helped give us this mess.
:shrug:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:08 PM
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31. I concur.
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:09 PM
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32. Now why would you attempt to group this together with '...racists birth certificate bullsh&t'?
Oh, of course, I see now.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:15 PM
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33. Guess I'm insane.
I feel every incumbent should face a primary challenge.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:34 AM
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34. No, you're not insane.....
You just don't have a problem living under a Republican President,
with a Republican Senate and a Republican House.

However, some of us do.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:17 AM
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38. I very much have a problem with that.
But I believe in the democratic process.

Some of us still do.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:20 PM
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40. When the process is skewed by combining big corporate money and biased media.....
it ain't the process that you may be thinking about.

That's the problem....

So your beliefs may be fine and dandy when the playing field is
leveled, and everything's fair....but it ain't.
Some of us understand this.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:38 PM
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41. So no one should ever force a primary?
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 12:39 PM by bigwillq
or run against an incumbent?

:shrug:



I feel every office holder, including the dog catcher, should face a primary challenge.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 01:27 AM
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 01:36 AM
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36. What does the fact that this is "stunning to you" tell you?
Perhaps that it might make sense to re-evaluate your position?
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:17 AM
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37. Sounds like you should start a party for the "real liberals"
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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:47 PM
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43. A primary challenge would help him clarify his positions
With no challenger at all, the primaries will be all about the Republicans. Little to no press will go to his campaign.

But as the OP states, if you support a primary challenge, you are a racist birther that wants the Republicans to win. (sarcasm)

Paint with a broad brush much?

Calling out progressives that are dissatisfied with the lack of leadership from the president is the best way to alienate the base, and get a Republican elected. Not all primary challengers are complete douche bags like Ted Kennedy was. He made a point of hurting Carter.

Anyone that calls me Unamerican, or a traitor, or a bigot, or an idiot for being very dissatisfied with the current administration will guarantee alienation.

Obama is still repeating the message that he want his feet held to the fire., so stop sucking his toes and pay attention to what is going on.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 05:52 PM
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44. duplicate post
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 05:55 PM by robcon
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 05:54 PM
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45. Clarify for whom?
His positions in his first term seem very clear to me.

He'll govern the same way in 2013-2017. He'll be re-elected easily, IMO.
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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 07:26 PM
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46. Clarify his positions through his own framework and world view
With the focus on the Republicans in the primaries, there will be a lot of Republican framing of this actions and ideals.

Comparing and contrasting with someone in the primaries would allow him to better define himself in the middle of a lot of Republican rhetoric.

BTW, no one should think that his reelection is in the bag. We have voter fraud, and people like me that won't put forward the effort that I did in 2008.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:27 PM
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47. Worst case scenario
is Obama gets 4 more years, unfettered by the restraint of having to be reelected. At that point, he will be free to implement his right wing agenda of compromise, wage his wars without restraint, take a meat axe to SS, Medicare, and Medicaid and the safety net. Be afraid people. We'd be much better off with someone else who feels loyalty to us and our principles.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:17 PM
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48. oh jesus
:rofl:

really

:rofl:
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