ABC/WaPo poll, Obama loses ground to Romney due to rising energy costs

[Exilednight]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/high-gas-prices-curb-driving-habits--and-obamas-approval-rating/2011/04/25/AF9kdpkE_story.html

That sort of hardship could slow Obama’s reelection campaign. The Post-ABC poll shows that 60 percent of independents who say they’ve been hit hard by surging gas prices also say they definitely won’t support Obama in his bid for reelection.

In a hypothetical matchup with former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, the top GOP performer in the Post-ABC poll, Romney wins by 24 points among the independents who have taken a severe financial hit because of gas prices, and the president is up 7 percentage points among other independents.

[Wilms]

1. While everyone else is paying attention to a bad hair day. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

2. Let him lose!

Let's see what Romney can do for us.

Betcha it will be less than nothing.

Than we can complain all together again as a unit....
as though it will do anything but keep us busy
while we are buried way down underneath....
never again able to see the light.

Getting rid of this President by a million cuts
is the way to go....and I think we should continue
trying as hard as we can on this. The results will be
breathtaking, and we can blame each other and him for it...
not that any of that will matter.

[karynnj]

18. That same survey has him beating Romney 49 -45

I went to pollingreport.com to get the actual favorability results from this poll - as the article does not seem to give them. Obama has a 52% favorability, which you would not guess from the article - http://pollingreport.com/obama_fav.htm .

You also might miss that he beats Romney, 49 to 45. ( http://pollingreport.com/wh12gen.htm )

Agenda, anyone?

[Tarheel_Dem]

3. Election day can't come soon enough for you, huh?

Too bad it's a year & a half away. :rofl:

When a poll comes out that shows Obama beating all GOP comers, a favorite quote of the Obama critics at DU: "Polls this far out, are meaningless". Has that line of thinking changed?
:rofl:

[Exilednight]

6. I'm not sure why you bothered to respond if all you are going to do is make

personal attacks. If you can add something relevant to the issue, then by all means enlighten us.

[damntexdem]

4. Mitt don't have a chance. Mitt's not wit it -- not with the RWers.

Not with the birfers. Not with the anti-health-reformers. And on top of that, he's a Mitt wit.

[Tesha]

23. Mitt may not be able to be nominated; we shall see.

But if Mitt *IS* nominated, there's an an unfortunately
excellent chance he'll kick Obama's ass.

Tesha

[TheBigotBasher]

39. Really?

Romneycare? His party so hate him for that, even if he survives the Primaries the GOP base will not turn out for him.

[Tesha]

49. I wouldn't bet on that (the GOP bad not turning out) if I were you. (NT)

[MadBadger]

5. The only ABC/WaPo Poll I see has Obama winning 49-45.

Where do you see the polling info showing him losing overall (not just with certain indies)

[Exilednight]

7. You are correct, and I adjusted wording to reflect prior to your post. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

8. Facts don't matter.....just whatever negatives can be eeked out....

and splashed as a headline....doncha know?

[Exilednight]

24. Did I not fix the headline? n/t

[FrenchieCat]

31. Why did the headline need fixin' in the first place?

Perhaps your eagerness of spreading any doom found surpassed you? :shrug:

[Exilednight]

32. Because I glanced at the article and then went back to re-read it. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

37. LOL!

all in the name of "searching for truth.....", I'm sure! :eyes:

[Tarheel_Dem]

10. +1

:thumbsup:

[JoePhilly]

12. Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad ... that's the point.

[karynnj]

20. That article pulls out just the independents and then just those

experiencing hardship because of the rise in gas prices - and ignores the results of the full scientifically drawn sample. Pretty unprofessional. (It would be fair to show both and indicate this could become a problem. )

[Drunken Irishman]

28. Or basically the margin he won the 2008 presidential election...

[MadBadger]

9. And do you have another ABC WaPo poll before this to back up saying he is losing ground?

I dont see any other poll from this firm on Real Clear politics.

[FrenchieCat]

14. The original headline typed by poster was .....

ABC/WaPo poll, Obama loses to Romney due to rising energy costs

for a reason.....

But remember, this wasn't intended as a factual statement/headline...a la Kyl! :rofl:

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. "But remember, this wasn't intended as a factual statement/headline...a la Kyl!"

:rofl:

[MannyGoldstein]

11. No worries. Just today Obama...

Made a statement and sent a letter to Congress. Oil prices are probably plummeting as I type this.

[fascisthunter]

13. sure he does.... corporate bullshit poll

[flamingdem]

16. Obama is going to kick Mr. Magic Underwear "business expert" dude's azz nt

[karynnj]

17. Polling Report.com has the full results, under various categories of that survey - What distortion!

I went to pollingreport.com to get the actual favorability results from this poll - as the article does not seem to give them. Obama has a 52% favorability, which you would not guess from the article - http://pollingreport.com/obama_fav.htm .

You also might miss that he beats Romney, 49 to 45. ( http://pollingreport.com/wh12gen.htm )

Agenda, anyone?

(snark because I copied my post to them.)

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. It's rich when those who demand "Truth" to Power, come off less than truthful themselves, huh?

There's a term for that, but I wouldn't want to be accused of "personal attacks".

[karynnj]

22. Very true, but I don't blame any poster here.

The Washington Post and Bloomberg once upon a time were serious sources of journalism.

To me the shift started in the late 1990s, and accelerated in the rush to war and the 2004 election. (I actually thing that someone could write an excellent analysis if they looked at the 2004 election from CSPAN, which while not perfect, does allow you to see a lot unfiltered and compare that to what was seen on all the major news channels - especially ALL the cable ones.

2008 was actually less biased. My guess, they knew the anger was too great and things were falling apart - and importantly, the pro-life justice(Renquist) that would be replaced by whomever won 2004, was replaced, along with another justice by the reactionary Alito and Roberts. The court shifted to the left - which was not changed by Obama replacing two liberals with liberals. They got citizens united.

The scary thing is that they have not been fair for at least the last year. Would you guess from teh economic news that the stock market that fell from 13000 to below 7000 at the end of Bush's term is over 12000?

Does anyone see that in 2008, before the market fell when the economy was moving - gas prices were high - and then they fell as the economy stalled, and now are rising as the world's economies revive and demand gas?

[Peacetrain]

21. Sweet Mother McRea.. Thank you for the update

[left is right]

25. i have trouble believing that Mitt can win any national office

(first I will start with apologies in advance to any Mormons on the board)
I know for a fact that fundamental Christians spent the decades of the 1980-2000 being lectured on the evils of cults. The JWs, the Mormons and Scientologists were all singled out with their very own lectures. There is an awful lot of FC that will remember that when they close the polling booth curtain—their pastors just couldn’t be wrong

[Exilednight]

34. It's still early. Odds are, Pawlenty will beat out Mitt for the nomination. Romney has to defend

his MA HCR bill that Obama co-opted. You're right about the fundies, and the tea-partiers already hate him.

[golfguru]

26. Impossible to keep good poll numbers for any president who

is engaged in 3 active wars with no end in sight. The gas prices are just adding to that. I will bet any money if the president withdraws troops from all 3 wars before mid-2012 his poll numbers will look great in spite of gas prices.

[Safetykitten]

27. Gee, who would of seen this happening?

[AndyTiedye]

29. I Hope Obama is Still Ahead When Gas Get to $7

If all they have to do to put a Republican in the White House is raise gas prices,
guess what will happen.

[SkyDaddy7]

30. IT IS WALL STREET WHO SHOULD BE BLAMED!!

There is NO SUPPLY PROBLEM or a "reasonable" reason to fear an interruption in the OIL Markets...This is pure speculation for profit! Of course all speculation is for profit but this is gone to far & no one is allowed to ask questions or you are a socialist communist who wants to destroy America!

Maybe we should limit the amount of money non OIL related entities can invest in OIL? HELL, I don't know but this crap is not only going to put a Republican in office it is going to wreck the work Obama & the Democrats did just to keep us from going off the cliff!

After reading the link below I have no idea what we are in store for before the election gets here!
If these guys are correct we are so screwed!!

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/2008-crash-deja-vu-well-relive-it-and-soon-2011-04-26?link=home_carousel

[Exilednight]

33. I totally agree about Wall Street. The price of oil is artifically inflated by

speculators who will dump it when the price gets high enough. This is nothing more than the new economic bubble. Matt Taibbi predicted that oil would be the next market bubble.

[liskddksil]

35. I love how they release the article about gas prices costing Obama

and sure enough the top-line numbers show Obama winning.

[jenmito]

36. I love how some DUers POST articles like that...

and seem to be happy about it. They love bringing Obama down.

[FrenchieCat]

38. That's because some folks' emotional needs are greater than any other.....

the other side of the same coin where the Tea Party is the head,
and these folks are the tail. If they squeeze hard enough,
they figure they'll get him out...then they can explode in contentment,
and at some point realize that the shit they can't climb out of
will have been of their own making by trying so hard at
politically immaturity, and allowing themselves to be willfully uniformed
all in the name of a vendetta that wasn't even the cause of their problems
to begin with.

[TheKentuckian]

40. Fucking emotional losers bitchin bout no jobs, plummeting wages, rising prices, wealth disparity

growing, held captive by an employer based health insurance system that bleeds us and soon the treasury dry, shit tons of wars, planet heating up, extraction companies ruining the water and habitat while the government plays butler, war criminals on book tours, giving all the money to Wall Street with nary a string while Captain Bipartisan plays paddycake with the supposed opposition.

Fucking babies.

Give Obama you baby's formula money or walk to work and shut the fuck up, vote, phone bank, walk those precincts, and shut the fuck up cause the President has his Reagan act to play to make the bankers happy while they fund the Republicans on his ass.

[FrenchieCat]

41. Yep. Folks who thought after 30 years of American FUCK-UP, that one vote for one man was supposed

to save the entire economy of the world, while he pulls jobs out of his ass with free health benefits, pay their mortgage, clean up the environment, stop all wars, provide daycare, all in 2.4 fucking years (of which they have been on his ass like white on rice for exactly 2.4 years) are exactly that; spoiled asses who believed that the magic man was coming to save them from their entire life.

So yeah..I suggest folks vote, phone bank, walk precincts and whatever else it takes, cause a concerted effort without all of the crying is the only way that we can save ourselves; because no....one man can't do it all for you; not even close.

[TheKentuckian]

47. You don't think he is supposed to work toward improving those conditions.

.His job seems to be to ride the system's inertia for 8 years so the next person's excuse will be 38 years of inertia and ride it out for 4-8 while conditions for the people grow more dire.

It isn't one man and the one man isn't doing too well on the areas he has control of. Nobody made him select his cabinet and advisers, no one forced the Catfood Commission on him but rather he resurrected it himself, nobody made him cut that deal with Pharma to kill drug reimportation, no one told him to cut the deal with facilities to kill the public option long before Lieberman came along, no one forced him to buddy up with Baucus and his gang on health care in general, nobody forced him to adopt the far right line on public education or forced Duncan on him, nobody made him be BP's pissboy, the system did not make him take on the authority to murder American citizens without charges, much less a trial.

He has made bad worse by his own efforts and designs.

Doing nothing about the direction we are going in is one thing, stepping on the gas is another.

He was given substantial power and proves to be a poor steward of it. How is unassailable and unconditional support supposed to get him to do what he can to lead us to a bit of a better place? Our trajectory is terminal. Obama was elected because it was felt he had unique abilities and a keen intellect to help us reverse and repair the damage done or at least start the long climb out but I see deeper down the rabbit hole.

He is rightfully catching heat because most of his efforts entrench the status quo he was elected to turn back.
It is also silly to bitch about him only having two and a half years because the first half of the first term sets the direction and is when you have the most room to put your policies into place. Obama elected to dust off the Republican playbook from the 90's and embrace it along with the absurd bipartisan bullshit, knowing those fuckers scuttled the country on purpose.

He resurrected, gave aid and comfort, legitimized, and absolved the deadly opposition.

He's the one that had the largest margin of victory for a Democrat since LBJ and the most votes in history and decided he had to go to "center" like he had to go for an 80/20 win in 2012.

Ted Kennedy wouldn't deserve the kind of slack you cut Obama and that is after a decades long track record in the big show. Obama didn't do a term and spent most of that running. I don't see where he earned unconditional trust and favor. It is out of whack and dangerous to give ANY politician such license but it is naive to actually expect it from everyone else and about crazy to demand people like teachers who he is actually aggressively fucking, just let it slide.

[FrenchieCat]

48. Such a bunch of Biased turd shit you have written here,

till I now realize more than anything else,
that you just ain't worth it. period.

He wasn't gonna be your very own personal messiah.
Deal with it, and grow the fuck up.

[TheKentuckian]

50. I didn't ask for a personal messiah. Maybe if you paid any attention before shrub

you'd grasp how far things are slipping or maybe not since you believe Obama's job is to hang out for eight years, shovel the wealth of the nation to the richest folks, playing errand boy for Big Oil and pharma, and breathe.

You don't care about the people of this country, you don't really care about politics, and you could give a shit about our water, air, and land. It is all wiping and dangling for Obama and crying about the corrupt corporate media for not being on Team Barack, anything else is a fucking pony.

[Canuckistanian]

42. Why? What would Romney do about gas prices?

Has he got some proposal?

[FrenchieCat]

43. He'd squeeze some out of his hair?

[pmorlan1]

44. Coincidence?

Maybe this poll and what Holder said are connected.

An investigation into possible manipulation of gasoline prices has uncovered "disturbing'' revelations, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.


"There are a couple things that … are disturbing,'' Holder said, declining to elaborate...Like poll numbers, maybe? lol

[FrenchieCat]

45. Or perhaps he said that because he was asked to investigate....

and has found some disturbing information!
but go on with the nefarious speculations...
just cause you can.

[ReturnoftheDjedi]

46. Romney won't be the nominee.