All I want for Christmas is a lean, mean and liberal Democratic Party

[Armstead]

Lean, as in get rid of the fat like Ben Nelson and other Democrats who might as well be Republicans. Put em in tgheir place or let em leave. They're not doing us any good anyway.

Mean as in fight the GOP -- and corporate oligarchs -- on their terms. Stop wussing out.

Liberal and mean as in standing up for the real interests of real people -- with no godamn apologies.

Liberal as in believing that the real interests of the majority of the public trump those of corporate oligarchs and Wall St. greedheads and other fat cats.

Liberal as in believing the government has a valid role to play in regulating the economy for the greater good by setting and enforcing basic rules of the road.

Liberal as in believing the government has a valid role in providing important services that vthe private sector will not or cannot meet.

[MadBadger]

1. All i Want for Christmas is some Chinese Food.

Maybe a movie or two.

[Armstead]

3. You can have that too....

Liberals won't stop you

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

8. But Lieberman might. I hear he wants to ban Chinese food and all movies will have

to be approved by his committee from now on.

[MadBadger]

30. Pullleeaze. Lieberman is a Jew like me, and will be devouring Lo Mein on Christmas too.

[Sebastian Doyle]

31. Lieberman won't ban all the Chinese food

Just the spicy stuff. Wouldn't want any "extreme" food, would we Joe? Gotta stick with the "moderate" noodles and such, but none of that radical Kung Pao Chicken.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

32. .

:spray:

[chimpymustgo]

35. Good thread a bunch of assholes are trying hijack. A LEAN MEAN PARTY THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS

[mdmc]

2. JOY!

k/r

[Davis_X_Machina]

4. Lean as in 201 in the House and 48 plus Sanders in the Senate? n/t

[Armstead]

7. What good is a "majority" if you donlt use it and let it paralyze you"

I'm not advocating for minority status.

But when we do get a majority, we always seem to let the ConservaDems and Vichy Democrats undermine any progress anyway.

[freddie mertz]

5. Keep dreaming.

Maybe after a debacle in 2010.

Of course, the Milbanks and the Kleins will be telling us that Obama had been "too liberal" and that progressives were to blame for the HCR debacle.

Which be the same old lie, as usual.

[Armstead]

10. Aw get some Christmas Spirit...

Be a kid and allow yourself to dream.

Ya never know....

[Wapsie B]

6. I want a party leadership that makes the powers that be in this country wake up in a cold sweat

every night. I want someone in office who opposes the DLC dems and Blue Dogs, making their lives a living hell. People like Holy Joe are quickly marginalized. I want someone who pushes the righties into a complete and utter meltdown. I want someone who is not afraid to be a Liberal Democrat for a change and not some corporate shill.

[opihimoimoi]

9. Fuck Yeah....I'm w you man...the GOP and their selfish antics are ruining our future

and our planet....

all they do is blame and destroy..thats their traits...lookit their record of massive fuckups...and them fuckers want to make a comeback??? WTF is that?

The Basic Philosophy of the GOP is all negative....they lie cheat decive mismanage disparage, distort, etc etc

they are connivers and scammers...the lot of them

Look at their Heros....all ZEROs...that is a clue....

Happy Times are not with the GOP...fuckin Grumpy Ole Perverts....diapers too boot.

[Armstead]

11. diapers? LOL

[MessiahRp]

28. Well David Vitter sure loved them!

:)

[jenmito]

12. So you want the Dems. to be the Minority Party. You want a "small tent" party like

the teabaggers want.

[Armstead]

14. Blah,blah,blah same old shit

You advance the teabaggers with your fatalistic conservative defeatism

Does it ever cross your mind that a really liberal party thatr stands up for people might actually attract a bigger tent?

[jenmito]

17. Does it ever cross YOUR mind that

really liberal Senators/Congressmen won't be elected in red states?

[Armstead]

19. Yes -- But that's not inevitable

Some places will always be a lost cause, maybe.

BUT peopel are noit as predictable as you might think.

For example, some of the states that voted for Bush ALSO voted to increase their state's mimimum wage in the same election. That is a clearly liberal concept.

Democrats could win over a lot of people you might assume would be written off with some smart strategy -- the right candidates -- and some damn progressive(liberal) populist backbone on the bread-and-butter issues.

Bernie Sanders, the most "radical" member of Congress and an avowed socialist, consistently wins support across the spoectrum in Vermont. Not because the "greenies" only support. A lot of hardassed working-class peopel too, because they know he is fighting for their interests.

[ShortnFiery]

15. Nope, we want DEMOCRATS who support Social Justice before the MIC and Banksters. eom

[jenmito]

18. So you want to be the minority party.

[ShortnFiery]

13. Yes, IMO, our Democratic Tent is way too big when we let in the CORPORATISTS and CONSERVATIVES.

:thumbsup:

[ChiciB1]

16. Well Said... Our Christmas Is Already LEAN! No Presents This Year...

just for the kids and that will be me making some sort of decoration out of ONE DOLLAR BILLS! I've done many things with dollar bills over the years! Just giving the money isn't as fun!

But I agree with you, we need HELP as Democrats!

[whistler162]

20. So you want a exclusionary party which caters to a few!

weird! But, whatever floats your boat.

[Armstead]

22. Can you at least be original?

You assume that liberalism -- not communism, not "socialism" -- but real liberalism that clearly stands up for the real economic interests of real people is destined to be an exclusionary party?

Spoken like a true conservative.

[whistler162]

25. No written like a true Democrat!

but, hey I ain't original in a unoriginal thread!

SAME OLD SAME OLD

If you aren't with us in lock step then you are against us. A little originality would be nice.

[Armstead]

26. If you would ever like to actually discuss real issues in a real way, I'm happy to oblige

I.m not talking lock step. But at least have a party that is stepping in the same general direction.

[CBR]

21. Lean being the operative word.

Lean in the House, lean in the Senate and lean in the White House. GOP or Tea Party all the way!!!!

[Armstead]

23. God you people are sooooo pfredictable

You don't like liberalism?

And you call ME a teabagger for advocating liberalism?

There is a party for people who dislike liberals and what they stand for. It's called the GOP. If you dislike liberals, that's your philosophical home.

[NJmaverick]

34. Nail meets head

[Laelth]

24. I would be very happy with that as my sole Christmas present. n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[damntexdem]

27. Yeah, right: and will Santy Claus bring it to you?

Unfortunately, there's obviously no sanity clause in the Dem Party's bylaws.

[Armstead]

29. I'll take it from Santa or anyone else willing to get back to a two-party system

[NJmaverick]

33. Whittle it down to 20 Senators and 100 Congressmen and you will get your wish

course there will be little they can do but complain about the awful things the GOP is doing to the nation

[Armstead]

36. I don't put people on Ignore

But I'm beginning to think it might be worth making an exception

[old mark]

37. I want my hair to grow back, but that ain't happening either.

How about some nice slippers instead?



mark

[Armstead]

38. If they are liberal slippers, sure