Cali_Democrat
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Sat Jun-18-11 12:36 PM
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There's a simple way for Obama to solve the Libyan war legal drama |
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End US involvement entirely.
Remove all US military assets involved in the Libyan situation.
This solution is simple, straightforward and it's definitely not rocket science.
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Sat Jun-18-11 12:40 PM
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1. Since there's no US planes bombing Libya, US ships launching missiles, or anything of the kind... |
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Sat Jun-18-11 01:29 PM
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3. US drones are hitting targets with missiles |
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I'd call that military hostilities.
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Sat Jun-18-11 02:18 PM
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If the rest of NATO and EU want to continue operations that is their prerogative.
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Sat Jun-18-11 01:48 PM
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6. You don't know that and I think you are wrong. |
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We are still flying missions.
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Sat Jun-18-11 01:13 PM
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2. There's no way it is that simple. |
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The relationships between this country, the UN, NATO, etc., etc., etc.
When other people take on tougher jobs than you are willing to take on, they deserve some credit.
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Sat Jun-18-11 01:35 PM
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4. "When other people take on tougher jobs than you are willing to take on, they deserve some credit." |
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But that would concede that Obama has a backbone. Remember, he's spineless as a slug! No, he's spineless as Hitler's slug!
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Sat Jun-18-11 01:35 PM
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5. but that would upset the EU and their OIL contracts!!!!!!! nt |
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Sat Jun-18-11 07:03 PM
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12. Yes, because there arent many other oil producing countries that would happily sell the EU oil |
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Sat Jun-18-11 02:33 PM
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8. Whatever happened to his "weeks instead of months" time frame? |
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Sat Jun-18-11 04:03 PM
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9. Um, excuse me, but that was "days, not weeks" |
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Apologists claim that this was just about handing off the baton to NATO, but it was mentioned in a few occasions and in some cases referred to as the expectation for an overall resolution.
The whole downplaying of the involvement was that it would be a quick little affair and we wouldn't get our hair mussed.
It's also illegal, of course, and an intervention to be able to wrest oil from its owners without the inconvenience of having to deal with an unpredictable leader who threatens nationalization.
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Sat Jun-18-11 06:58 PM
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10. Really? Days? Well shit. |
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Sat Jun-18-11 07:02 PM
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11. What would your Plan B be? |
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So, assume that the President really thinks what we are doing there is important and he somehow convinced you of that. How would you go forward with those two assumptions?
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Sat Jun-18-11 08:19 PM
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Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 08:21 PM by Cali_Democrat
How would I go forward with those two assumptions? I would seek a congressional resolution authorizing military action.
If Congress failed to authorize force, I would do what I said in my OP and remove all US military assets being used in the Libyan situation.
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Sat Jun-18-11 09:23 PM
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14. If Obama wanted 60%+ approval ratings tomorrow, he'd blindly pull out everything in the middle east. |
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Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 09:24 PM by phleshdef
I don't think he is shooting for political expediance. If he was, he could pack it all in without having to deal with bullshit from Congress or anyone else on the matter.
The fact is , there are some pretty good arguments as to why such a thing could bite us on the ass big time a few years or less down the road.
The same could be said for the consequences of ignoring another potential genocidal in the middle east and how such a thing could effect the overall stability throughout a region whos makeup is probably more volatile now than its been in many, many decades. America was deeply entrenched in this bullshit way before Barack Obama was ever a twinkle in America's eye. And we see what happens when we allow ourselves to become deeply entrenched in ANYTHING. It becomes something we ourselves are dependent on for some important reason of interest or another.
The private banking sector and large financial institutions, the middle east, poorly crafted free trade agreements, etc. We stepped in those piles deep a really long time ago and its gotten to the point where we'd almost have to saw off a foot to free our leg. Thats the reality that awaits anyone who becomes President. Its gonna take a long time to untangle ourselves from the mistakes we made as our world became global.
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