Abandoned.

[Writer]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/12/abandoned.php/

If I feel abandoned, it's not by Obama and the Democratic party, it's by those on the left advocating to kill the bill.

I am unemployed and have a pre-existing condition that requires daily medicines, quarterly doctors visits and an annual test. I am on COBRA, which runs out mid-2010, when I will have to find new health insurance. I will need to purchase some kind of health insurance, assuming I can find provider who will insure me

[brentspeak]

1. Signed, an Insurance Industry college intern

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

5. b-i-n-g-o

[Teaser]

21. yeah, probably working out of the same cubicle as K&H

.

[Writer]

8. You say this based on what evidence? n/t

[yourout]

2. hate to break it to you but if the Senate version is passed you might be able...

to find coverage but I doubt you will be able to afford it being unemployed and all.

[Hello_Kitty]

3. Since nothing kicks in until 2013, she's going to be in the same predicament in 2010 anyway.

What they should do right now is expand Medicaid to unemployed or low income people. The income limits for single people are ridiculously low.

[jefferson_dem]

4. Like the lefty faomers who have joined forces with the teabagger nuts in chanting "kill the bill"

give a fuck about this person's situation. Pfft...

I'm embarassed and ashamed to be a member of this community.

[Forkboy]

7. Then leave.

I like you, but if it's such an embarrassment go do something that makes you feel all happy about yourself and your party. :shrug:

[SIMPLYB1980]

10. Why don't you leave?

Form the new party that caters to just you?

[Forkboy]

12. Oh, it's you.

I thought maybe the intelligent person had replied.

[jefferson_dem]

11. Thanks for the invitation...

But I think I'll stick around. This place doesn't deserve to be overrun in such a way, with all the sick rancor left unchallenged.

[Forkboy]

15. I'm embarrassed to see Dems support wiretapping, the Patriot Act and Middle East quagmires.

Shit happens.

[Undercurrent]

22. Yes.

The teabaggers are looking forward to their big victory bash.

[Cha]

29. Fuckers..they don't even know wtf they're protesting.

[jgraz]

24. Oh please... now it's faux sympathy for a faux sick person?

The bar keeps getting lower. :puke:

[Cha]

28. DU is still DU

And, just like Pres Obama and the country getting through this Rough Patch(he never said it would be easy)..DU will survive with its integrity intact.

That's the way I'm looking at it anyway..and it's people like you who keep it goin' on.:)

[eridani]

31. So forciing him to biuy a product that he can't pay for helps him? n/t

[pecwae]

36. Sure, "Lefty Foamers" are such

horrid folk. A clever term to disparage those who dare to question this bill; how cute.

Yeah, DU sucks so much you continue to post:crazy:

[niceypoo]

41. Those who feel betrayed by Obama want a strong bill

The teabaggers want no bill. Your claiming opposites to be the same thing.

Intellectual dishonesty.

[rurallib]

6. Well, if the proposed bill passes I will be hosed.

Too bad the dems didn't show some spine and pursue some other strategies for real reform.
I am sorry for your condition, but I believe the problem is not with those who are not willing to accept a bad bill, it is with those who allowed themselves to be maneuvered into this corner where they have but one option left.
And don't forget the Ben Nelsons and Mary Landreaus of the world. I would hardly call them left.

[babylonsister]

9. I'm not on COBRA, but will be in the same boat next year. I can empathize. nt

[niceypoo]

45. If I want the same coverage next year

...that I have now, I have to pay $5k more per year, starting in April. That is almost a 40% jump in one year. Our insurance is already a hollowed out husk from what it was in the 90s.

If we cant afford to pay $5k more a year for what we are already paying $1200 a month for now, we have to go with a 'health savings plan.' This, 'plan,' has a $5k yearly deductible that has to be paid before any insurance kicks in. Either way we are screwed. If I break my arm or whatever I will end up flying down to Costa Rica to have it fixed. I can go round trip for $600 and have the arm fixed for $150. Otherwise it costs me $5K. Everything about it is fucked.

The bill does nothing to stop price gouging.

[NJmaverick]

13. Yes these supposed liberals expose their priorities

Their wants and egos



Way down on the list- People's lives

[Writer]

14. This debate has gotten so abstract and ideologically moralized...

that we're forgetting who this bill is meant to help.

[NJmaverick]

17. Yes, I agree

sure it sucked that we had the public option snatched away. However we can't forget all the people the bill can still help. You can't destroy that in a fit of anger.

[jefferson_dem]

18. It's pure, unfiltered self-indulgence.

Many have fooled themselves into believing that their lives have more purpose when they are ranting and screaming about injustice rather than promoting betterment (maybe only small incremental steps) that is actually achievable.

[NJmaverick]

19. Agreed eom

[eridani]

32. Their actually reading of the bills

ONe what planet do you "help" someone by forcing them to buy a useless product?

[niceypoo]

42. Yes, those darn 'libruls'

...just screw everything up

[BeyondGeography]

16. That person obviously has no sense whatsoever of his/her self-interest

:sarcasm:

[eridani]

34. If they are stupid enough to believe that paying for insurance is going to get them health care

--then they don't.

[paulk]

20. medicaid?

or something like Colorado's CICP?

I mean, really - this bill doesn't kick in soon enough to help this person's situation anyway.


Without any context, this argument is not compelling. It's a cheap line of reasoning, and I really expect better posts from you.

[Phx_Dem]

23. You should feel abandoned by them. They don't give a shit about you.

I'm not sure they care about anyone. I think Chris Matthews was right tonight when he said there a groups that just likes to complain. They don't really want anything. They just love to complain. If it wasn't this, it'd something else. It's true that they've done nothing but bitch since Obama was elected -- one thing after another.

[jgraz]

25. How does this person know the final bill will help them in the least?

This is either a fake or someone who is deeply stupid.

[SpartanDem]

26. Some people need to remember who this is about

[jgraz]

27. Yeah -- fake sick people posting anonymously on the internet!!

Really pulls at the old heartstrings, don't it?

[HughMoran]

30. Same here - I'm on Cobra and rates at small company are ludicrous

You know it's bad when the "full rate" Cobra coverage beats by 30% the company subsidized rate at a small company. I'm glad that so many are happy to tell me to "shut up, you have a lot of nerve supporting this bill".

[eridani]

35. They will stay ludicrous under the current bill n/t

[HughMoran]

38. Not according to the calculator

linked here...http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx

[eridani]

39. My calculator says I'm disposable human garbage who has to pay 3 times as much

It gives a rather different result.

[HughMoran]

43. OK

Sucks to be you I guess.

[eridani]

44. Suck to be a sociopath who would rather just put us out ice floes

You stupid shit--this bill is going to KILL people in my age demographic. Right now we have a CHOICE to pay for our insulin instead of for a shitty barely more than catastrophic coverage policy that we will never be able to afford to actually use.

[eridani]

33. Excuse me. You don't need insurance. You need CARE if you get sick

Insurance is a useless product if the insurers won't pay for care. And they won't--you are not only forced to pay premiums, but also to pay your ongoing health caare expenses. You'll sitll die or go bankrupt--you just get to be poor while you're wating for that.

[pecwae]

37. And as long as the insurance companies

are involved teams of 'experts' will make decisions in a little room at corporate HQ about what type of care the insured is entitled to receive. Denied due to being Medically Unnecessary will become even more rampant.

[freddie mertz]

40. Don't blame the ones fighting for you.

Sell-out central is at 1600 PA Ave.