Cutting Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid is going to a place I cannot follow...

[stevenleser]

particularly since we can cut military/defense instead and raise taxes on the wealthy.

The political consequences of doing this would be severe and long lasting and it is unnecessary.

Just my 2 cents.

[msongs]

1. The republican agenda marches on - repubs have complete control of the f raming and course lol nt

[vaberella]

2. When was this confirmed? n/t

[stevenleser]

4. It's not confirmed yet. There is an article in the Washington Post that suggests that this will be

done or at least offered by the WH. I hope they are wrong and that all this speculation is bullshit.

[vaberella]

14. Steven did you read the entire article? There wasn't an ounce of fact.

When did the Washington Post get a run down on what Obama will do when Obama has yet to do it. This is not like a speech---where people can read it in advance. This is all conjecture.

[stevenleser]

16. Scanned it. If they jumped the shark that badly, they are going to get hammered.

At least by me if no one else.

[vaberella]

19. People do a lot to sell. They were even taken to task by several on MSNBC. n/t

[tekisui]

3. Good to see you on record. I hope it doesn't happen, but think it will.

[Peacetrain]

5. How many times has the whole board jumped the shark.. and then had to

ahem .. excuse me.. uhhh .. see.. uhhh.. never mind.. it was this!

I want to see what they are talking about first.

[stevenleser]

7. I hear you. I just want to make my feelings on the issue known here. I will make them known

more publicly via an article shortly once we know more.

[Peacetrain]

9. There is nothing wrong with that

:fistbump:

I got to see what this is about first.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

6. Tell THE WHITE HOUSE. Doesn't do much good to say it here!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

[stevenleser]

11. Using what little backchannel access I have to do that...

we'll see.

[Recursion]

8. Not even Ryan is talking about cutting Social Security

Medicare cost controls have been a huge part of Democratic aims at health care reform since the 90s. I can't simply put my foot down and say I'm against them; we need to rein costs in.

[Ian David]

10. White House official pushes back that it won’t be making a “grand offer” on Social Security.

White House official pushes back that it won’t be making a “grand offer” on Social Security.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1431724

[ProfessionalLeftist]

13. Not taking that for granted. Presiden Cave-in needs to hear LOUDLY

from people that they are NOT gonna follow him there if he even considers it.

[vaberella]

15. President "Cave-In" ?----fuckin' ridiculous. n/t

[woo me with science]

12. Agree. K&R nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. Well steven you're entitled to your negativity. Enjoy!

:hi:

[Thumper79]

18. I'm right behind you.

[ClarkUSA]

20. Did you know that Pres. Obama in his SOTU said he'd cut costs and fraud but not benefits?

Nothing has changed.

The actual story is that the President will not slash SS benefits. Where are the appropriate headlines to this effect?

"There is no news here," Carney said. "The President has always said that while social security is not a major driver of the deficit, we do need to strengthen the program and the President said in the State of the Union Address that he wanted to work with both parties to do so in a balanced way that preserves the promise of the program and doesn't slash benefits."

Let's not take the bait. Wait for actual information, before assuming the worst, please.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=702658&mesg_id=702658

FYI: the WH has already pushed back and denied Fred Hyatt's right-wing WaPo Business Section spin.

[Number23]

22. Wow, thanks for that Clark!

I also just saw this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4909983

If this is another example of prigressive whining about something that ain't even going to happen AGAIN (see Catfood Commission, announcement of SS cuts in SoTU etc. etc. etc.) I will fly my @ss back to America and work on this man's campaign for free. I am SO SICK of this isht.

[Tx4obama]

27. + 1,000,000,000 :)

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[blkmusclmachine]

23. K & R

Enough of the charade, I say!

[Palmer Eldritch]

24. luckily, that's not where we're going.

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[Tx4obama]

26. There will be NO cuts to benefits.

Excerpt

But by Thursday morning, most House Democrats refrained from directly criticizing the president for planning to include entitlement programs in negotiations. Instead, they settled on another position: Changes to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are permissible so long as they shore up the programs to be stronger later. Cuts to beneficiaries will not be allowed. And while it is unclear what specific changes the president is proposing, so far, there seems to be no reason for concern.

It wasn't a total reversal -- Democrats maintained that they would not vote for a final deal that makes cuts to beneficiaries of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Still, few objected, at least publicly, to the line in the sand on entitlement programs disappearing, or to the fact that it was the president who washed it away.

"When you say Social Security is 'on the table,' it's been on the table all the time," Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told The Huffington Post. "In the Biden talks we talked about whether we ought to do something like raising the caps. If you raise the caps it's a whole lot different than raising the retirement age."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/social-security-obama_n_892722.html

[Tx4obama]

28. White House: No Change In Obama’s Position On Social Security

White House: No Change In Obama’s Position On Social Security

The White House is playing down a report that the President is willing to consider cuts to Social Security as part of a deal to raise the debt-ceiling and reduce the nation's long-term deficits.

White House spokesman Jay Carney several times during Wednesday's press briefing criticized a report in the Washington Post, saying the reporter "overwrote" it and questioning the motives of the story's sources.

Insisting the President has not changed his position on whether Social Security should be included in the debt-ceiling negotiations, Carney pointed to Obama's January remarks in the State of the Union that he wants to engage in a bipartisan process to strengthen Social Security in a "balanced way" that preserves the promise of the program and does not "slash benefits."

Obama wants to create a dialogue "where every participant feels that he or she can bring to the room issues that they think are important," Carney said. "That doesn't mean that the President's position has changed at all."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/the-white-house-is-playing.php?ref=fpblg