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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:25 AM
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House liberals launch drive to coalesce Dems against Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security cuts

House liberals launch drive to coalesce Dems against Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security cuts

by Joan McCarter

Greg Sargent has a letter from the co-chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, Reps. Raul Grijalva and Keith Ellison, to Dem leader Nancy Pelosi intended to galvanize Dems against cuts to social insurance programs in the debt ceiling negotiations. The letter reads:

We write in strong agreement with your unwavering defense of the Democratic programs that form the bedrock of America’s middle and working classes, and which are overwhelmingly popular.

On July 7, you made very clear that “We are not going to balance the budget on the backs of America’s seniors, women and people with disabilities” and that “we do not support cuts in benefits” for vital safety-net programs. We agree completely.

Especially in these tough economic times, we should not be cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits that millions of our constituents paid into and depend on. Such benefit cuts should be off the table in current debt discussions.

Our Republican colleagues should be embarrassed by their insistence that unless Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits are cut, the nation will default on its debts. Middle-class families have sacrificed enough, and a deal that pushes the American Dream further out of reach, in order to pay for extending tax breaks for the rich and corporations, is simply unacceptable.

We are united as Democrats in saying that it’s time to stand up to the Republican hostage-taking. We will not be forced to vote for a “final agreement” that we do not agree to — and that the American people do not agree to.

We stand united with you in insisting that benefit cuts for working families, our seniors, children, and people with disabilities must be off the table, and we stand united with you in fighting for millions of Americans who need Democrats to be firmly on their side.

It's well established that cuts to Medicaid are in the mix. Sen. Max Baucus has confirmed that a "blended payment rate" proposal for the program is included in the negotiations. The proposal, advanced by the White House, would cut Medicaid payments to states, inevitably resulting in states dropping services and kicking beneficiaries out of the system. Ultimately, it would also undercut the Affordable Care Act, since an expansion of Medicaid is critical to the expansion of health coverage in the new law.

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Here's the first reason the assumptions are wrong: How Obama is shoring up federal authority over Medicaid

The second assumption that the President is going to undermine his own health care law makes no sense, especially since the federal government will be operating an exchange in each state. Anyone qualifying for Medicaid would be eligible for coverage via the fed plan if states drop them.


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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:47 AM
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1. Will they fight "cutting" or "slashing"
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:48 AM by MannyGoldstein
These people just crack me up with their word games.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0707/Briefing-room-word-games-What-s-a-slash-versus-a-cut-in-Social-Security">Briefing room word games: What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security?

So, a reporter asked, what does “slash” mean?

“Haven’t you got, like, a dictionary app on your iPhone?” Carney replied.

Q: Well, it’s a word that you use instead of “cut.”

Carney: “Slash” is, I think, quite clear. It’s slash. It’s like that. (Carney makes a slashing motion with his hand.) It’s a significant whack.

Q: So it means a significant …

Carney: I’m not going to put a numerical figure on it.

Q: So it means a significant cut.

Carney: I think slashing is a pretty sharp, direct …

Q: It’s not the same thing as cutting – the point is, it’s not the same thing as “cut.”

Carney: It’s slash. (Laughter.) And I don’t mean the guitarist. (Laughter.)

Q: A pledge to not slash benefits is not the same thing as a pledge to not cut benefits.

Carney: I’m not – again, we’re talking about a policy enunciated by the president back in January, and that is …

Q: This is a diction you guys have chosen.

Carney: No, no, I get that, and we did choose it, and the president used it. But I’m not here to negotiate the semantics …

Q: Just so everybody understands – just so everybody understands, when you say “slash,” you don’t mean “cut.”

Carney: We have said that to address the long-term solvency of the problem – of the program, because this is not an issue that drives short- or medium-term deficits, that we would look – the president is interested in looking at ways to strengthen the program and enhance its long-term solvency that protects the integrity of the program and doesn’t slash benefits.

Q: Which is not the same thing as not cutting benefits.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:50 AM
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2. Oooh
the "cute words games" repost.

Slashing does not equal cutting!

Sheesh!!!

:rofl:



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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:51 AM
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3. Hey ProSense: how do you define a "cut" vs. a "slash"
Is a slash, say, 23%?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:55 AM
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4. Here:
slash = /

:rofl:

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:26 AM
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5. I can tell when you can't answer any more
You roll out the rofl.

Later.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:26 AM
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6. .
Bye!!!

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