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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:11 AM
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"The plan is childish, petty, and more than a little pathetic..."
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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/with_20_days_to_go_a_lastchanc030825.php


July 13, 2011 8:00 AM
With 20 days to go, a ‘last-chance option’

By Steve Benen



President Obama, Vice President Biden, and the top eight congressional leaders continue to meet literally every day in the hopes of striking a debt-reduction deal, and yesterday’s talks lasted two hours. How much headway was made yesterday? By all accounts, none.

We’re now 20 days from August 2, the point at which the United States will exhaust its ability to pay its bills, and the fundamental dynamic has not, cannot, and probably will not change: Democrats are seeking a compromise with spending cuts and new revenue; Republicans won’t compromise and expect Dems to meet 100% of the GOP’s demands. Or else.

Enter Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) new proposal, which he called a “last-choice option.” The byzantine process would work like this:

…First, Obama would submit a request for a $700 billion increase in the debt ceiling, along with a nonbinding proposal to cut spending. That would automatically trigger a $100 billion increase in the debt ceiling to give Congress time to consider the request. Congress could then vote to either approve or disapprove of the president’s request. If they disapprove of it, however, Obama could veto their disapproval, and unless two-thirds of both chambers voted to overturn his veto — a virtually unthinkable outcome given that Democrats control the Senate — he could raise the debt ceiling anyway.

The same thing would happen, albeit in $900 billion increments rather than $700 billion increments, in fall 2011 and summer 2012. Take it all together, and Republicans would almost completely forfeit their leverage over the debt ceiling. In return, they’d get to make Democrats vote repeatedly to first raise the debt ceiling and then to “approve” of raising the debt ceiling. As Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said, this “gives the president 100 percent of the responsibility.” Or, to put it differently, 100 percent of the blame.


How many cuts would this process guarantee? None. The parties would go back to fighting over spending through the appropriations process, which would “only” lead to government shutdowns, instead of an economic collapse. Rather, McConnell’s effort is about politics — it would give Republicans the upper hand when it comes to whining, in three separate occasions, about Democrats doing the right-but-unpopular thing.

McConnell wouldn’t lower the deficit, but he would get the chance to complain an awful lot about Obama using the power that McConnell is eager to give him.

The plan is childish, petty, and more than a little pathetic, but as it happens, those adjectives describe congressional Republicans rather well, too.

The next question is whether such a proposal has any credible shot at being adopted. Senate Democrats have “privately embraced the idea,” seeing it as a viable way to circumvent the GOP-created crisis. The White House still prefers to strike an actual debt-reduction deal, but sees McConnell’s plan as a viable fall-back option. House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) seemed quite pleased with the Senate Minority Leader’s proposal, which under normal circumstances, would mean a great deal.

But these aren’t normal circumstances. By all accounts, House Republicans, and even several far-right GOP senators, hate McConnell’s proposal, and won’t even consider supporting it.

We’re looking at the very real possibility that the top two Republicans in Congress — the Senate Minority Leader and the Speaker of the House — have no meaningful influence over how their caucuses resolve a crisis of their own making.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:23 AM
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1. Maybe you can clarify someething for me
One thing I did not understand about McConnell's proposal (well, not th only thing, it's fuzzy in the extreme) is how can it become reality, assuming that the administration is willing to go with it. Does it have to be voted on? If so, it will probably fail in the House. If not voted on, then how? Any idea?
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:34 AM
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2. I believe that the proposal will have to be voted on, but...
I think it would easily pass the House as the Republicans would probably be all for it.
It would allow the debt ceiling to be raise, which they don't want; but it places all of the blame for raising it on President Obama and the Democrats.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:39 AM
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3. I don't believe that being "blamed" for raising the debt ceiling is
a net political liability for the Dems. nt
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:43 AM
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4. Exactly
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:31 AM
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6. I don't know if this will pass the House, but most of the votes will come from Dems if it does.
For all of McConnell's contortions to preserve some political benefit from defeat, at bottom his proposal raises the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion without requiring any spending cuts. Very few Republicans in the House will vote for that under any circumstance. Boehner will have a hard timr rounding up the 25 or 30 votes needed if all the Dems support it.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:59 AM
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5. Thank God someone is calling this proposal a piece of shit
instead of some grand victory. Pathetic and childish is the word for it, and to capitulate to that is also childish and pathetic.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:18 AM
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7. Dang, I was hoping the quote in the OP came from the president
some words like that might get me back on board.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 04:17 PM
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8. It's too haaaarrrrrrrddddd for us to deal wit h this debt issue Mr. Obama Sir--you do it!
What a bunch of whiny babies.

I bet the Tea Party sets their scrawny butts on fire for this but if they do what the Tea Party crazies want the business community is not going to be happy. I predict they follow true to form and cave to the big business boys.

Pass the popcorn please, it's fun to watch them squirm.
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