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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:19 AM
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Cantor.. undermining the process itself by pouting for the cameras.
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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/going_backwards_with_19_days_t030852.php

July 14, 2011 8:00 AM
Going backwards with 19 days to go

By Steve Benen



As scheduled, participants in the debt-reduction talks met for about two hours yesterday. It’s safe to say the discussions didn’t go well.

Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the House majority leader, said he raised the idea of taking what savings could be achieved now — roughly $1.4 trillion — and then having additional votes to raise the debt limit again before the elections in November 2012, with Republicans ultimately seeking a total of at least $2.4 trillion in cuts with no tax increases.

At this, Mr. Cantor said, the president “got very agitated, seemingly.” Mr. Cantor quoted the president as saying: “Eric, don’t call my bluff. I’m going to the American people with this.”

Then, Mr. Cantor said, “He shoved back and said, ‘I’ll see you tomorrow’ and walked out.”

“I was a little taken aback,” Mr. Cantor added.

Democrats said that Mr. Obama’s departure was not abrupt, but that he had forcefully made a case that Republicans had been unwilling to compromise. “Enough’s enough,” one Democrat familiar with the talks quoted Mr. Obama as saying.


It’s not surprising that accounts from participants vary, but piecing together the various accounts, it appears President Obama was wrapping up the meeting for the afternoon. Cantor interrupted him three times to push for a temporary increase — an idea Cantor has repeatedly rejected — in which Republicans would get significant cuts in exchange for nothing.

Obama reportedly found this hard to take. “I have reached the point where I say enough,” Obama said, according to Reuters. “Would Ronald Reagan be sitting here? I’ve reached my limit. This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this.”

Ordinarily, powerful officials involved in these kinds of high-level talks stick to vague generalities when talking to reporters afterwards. In contrast, Cantor rushed to reporters yesterday to whine that President Obama had hurt his feelings — a pathetic display that reminded many of Newt Gingrich’s back-of-the-plane tantrum in 1995.

Cantor isn’t just being a pain is the ass in the room; he’s also undermining the process itself by pouting for the cameras.

And remember, if Cantor isn’t satisfied, he’ll lead the way in crashing the economy on purpose.


Sam Stein’s report added, “It was the fifth straight day of talks, but the first in which attendees, speaking on background, were willing to admit that steps were taken backwards.”

Indeed, theatrics aside, the substantive gaps between the parties appear to be turning into chasms. They disagree on cuts, the baseline used to determine the size of the cuts, the timeframe for the cuts, the need for revenue, the role of defense spending in the cuts, and mechanisms to enforce the savings. Is any progress being made on any of these fronts? By all accounts, no.

The other day I compared today’s Republican Party to a not-terribly-bright organized-crime family, run entirely by petulant children. In retrospect, that was probably insulting to children.

The president has set a Friday deadline to determine, once and for all, whether an agreement is possible. If not, attention will turn to contingency plans, most notably Mitch McConnell’s proposal.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:27 AM
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1. Isn't Cantor the guy who makes money if the economy tanks?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:40 AM
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5. Yes, and that fact alone should disqualify him from participating in debt ceiling discussions.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:29 AM
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2. Seeing Cantor makes me physically ill.
I switch the channel when he comes on now, just as if he were Sarah Palin.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:31 AM
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3. Pathetic
and it's getting scary :-(
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:40 AM
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4. Ahem
The other day I compared today’s Republican Party to a not-terribly-bright organized-crime family, run entirely by petulant children. In retrospect, that was probably insulting to children.

;-) Author forgot to mention that it's also insulting to the mob! :rofl:

Seriously though - President Obama has got it. I'm one of those that's AOK with his numerous accomplishments - but it sticks in my craw that we didn't get Medicare for All. On this issue - The debt ceiling, the budget, and the raising of revenue by allow the Bush Tax Cuts to expire ASAP -I want him to hold the line.

It's a BIG win. And maybe now Harry Reid will STFU and wake up and smell the 2012 election.

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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:45 AM
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6. "today’s Republican Party[is a] not-terribly-bright organized-crime family, run entirely by
petulant children. In retrospect, that was probably insulting to children."


:rofl:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:53 AM
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7. "Wah!!!! Big bad president was mean to widdle Eric!!!
:cry:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:03 AM
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8. " Cantor immediately rushed to reporters to inform them of the president's dramatic exit."
Ezra Klein:

<...>

The breakup of the meeting, while dramatic, seems a bit less so if you know that Obama also said "I'll see you all tomorrow" before leaving the room. But, as if confirming Obama's accusation that this was all "posturing," Cantor immediately rushed to reporters to inform them of the president's dramatic exit. Nevertheless, one goal of the talks is now fulfilled. In his initial remarks announcing the White House negotiations, Obama said one goal was that "the parties will at least know where each other’s bottom lines are." Now they do.

<...>

Cantor is an asshole who seems to be operating under the delusion that he, not the President, is the meeting leader. The meeting ends when the President ends it.



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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:51 AM
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9. Yep. He looks like a whiney ass baby who is trying to "out do" the
President in negotiations strategy by turning the tables on him. Good fucking luck with that! :rofl:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:33 PM
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10. Eric Songboy Cantor...a petulant child? Then what's Jeb Hensarling?
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